I was an antivaxer, nineteen years ago.

[Ms. Toad]

72. That is not what you said.

You made a categorical statement that mere offering of a vaccine means the vaccine is safe. That is wrong, as a general principle (according to a report in CNN, nearly 1/3 of drugs "offered" are unsafe to some degree). https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/health/fda-approval-drug-events-study/index.html

As to your current assertion regarding, "they would have been withdrawn long ago" if they were unsafe - Drugs have been "offered," for deacades before being withdrawn as unsafe. Darvon & Darvocet - withdrawn after 55 years of being offered, DES withdrawn after 31 years of being offered, PTZ and Metrazol - after 48 years of being noffered, Accutane - after 27 years of use. Many vaccines have been offered for far longer than these medications.

Using the mere length of time something has been offered as an indicator of safety is also illogical (although at least not contradicted within your own statement).

(I'm not arguing that most vaccines are unsafe, or that the benefits of vaccines far outweigh any personal or societal risks associated with not taking them. I'm merely fed up with the dismissive and condescending illogical, and false - at least by omission - sound bites to shut down discussion.)