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berni_mccoy

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Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:18 PM Apr 2019

MUELLER: "Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting..." [View all]

From the Mueller Report, page 157:

"Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including Russian-interference and obstruction investigations."


So why didn't they investigate the President?

Page 160:
"The Department of Justice has taken the position that Section 1512(c)(2) states a broad, independent, and unqualified prohibition on obstruction of justice."


Mueller then argues over 22 pages that the DOJ position is legally incorrect and that the President should be investigated for obstruction.

His conclusion:

IV. Conclusion

Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President's conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.


Holding Trump accountable is up to Congress now.
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That is the smoking gun right there... Takket Apr 2019 #1
+1,Barr should be impeached uponit7771 Apr 2019 #2
Was this Barr's position on obstruction or a broader position? triron Apr 2019 #5
Barr said that Mueller left the conclusion for him, and that he exonerated Trump nt coti Apr 2019 #12
And in so telling that lie, Barr committed obstruction. lagomorph777 Apr 2019 #13
they can lock up bdamomma Apr 2019 #35
That's pretty black-and-white. lagomorph777 Apr 2019 #39
Agreed. Plus Barr cut funding to stop Mueller from further investigating. Pelosi onit2day Apr 2019 #15
Predicting that will not happen. nt Duppers Apr 2019 #43
The most important regarding the future of the nation is the willingness of olegramps Apr 2019 #53
There's a lot of damaging stuff in the report, assuming the reader cares. Hoyt Apr 2019 #3
Many don't because Mueller wrote it and therefore it cannot possibly be trusted. tymorial Apr 2019 #26
That's the problem. Remember one trumper saying he didn't care what laws trump broke to get elected. Hoyt Apr 2019 #27
They will bdamomma Apr 2019 #36
These 22 pages probably have a lot more thought/analysis in them vs. the initial DoJ opinion... CincyDem Apr 2019 #4
I'm even more convinced Mueller's investigation was shut down. PragmaticLiberal Apr 2019 #6
+1 he wasn't done but was ordered to stop. Hassler Apr 2019 #8
That is what he's saying if you read between the lines ... basically he was told he couldn't mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #9
Boom! Roland99 Apr 2019 #7
Holy shit ismnotwasm Apr 2019 #10
Just Imagine...! B Stieg Apr 2019 #11
I agree with this Trump statement: "I'm fucked!" lagomorph777 Apr 2019 #16
I suspect the Grand Jury records show they would have charged Trump with Obstruction berni_mccoy Apr 2019 #48
It was an organized attempt to break laws, RICO! nt yaesu Apr 2019 #14
This is now actionable. BSdetect Apr 2019 #17
yes. Impeach Now. EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #19
Is it? The DOJ - William Barr - said otherwise. Texin Apr 2019 #34
Congress doesn't answer to the DOJ berni_mccoy Apr 2019 #45
UNFIT FOR OFFICE EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #18
Impeach! mountain grammy Apr 2019 #20
Sounds like Mueller wimped out LiberalLovinLug Apr 2019 #21
A snow job. There is no excuse. Mueller is a traitor along with the rest of the gop. nt DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #23
Mueller disagreed with Barr on DOJ Policy, but ultimately he must answer to it berni_mccoy Apr 2019 #24
sounds plausible bdamomma Apr 2019 #38
Well I'm confused then about what constitutes "traditional prosecutorial judgment" LiberalLovinLug Apr 2019 #54
Impeach now! Dem_4_Life Apr 2019 #22
ITTMF NOW! sinkingfeeling Apr 2019 #25
Barr Was Truly Trump's Firewall nt DallasNE Apr 2019 #28
K&R UTUSN Apr 2019 #29
Well now that this is being elucidated....and I'm sure more is to come.... Chakaconcarne Apr 2019 #30
Mueller could have recommended prosecution for one of these charges... Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #31
Actually he couldn't berni_mccoy Apr 2019 #44
Oh, yeah. I failed to mention, "Except for no permission from the boss." :) nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #46
The important question to ask: if it were anybody else doing what Trump harumph Apr 2019 #32
Under the standard in the Report, Nixon was wrongly threatened w/impeachment. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #47
+1 Chin music Apr 2019 #51
Time for Congress to pass a few laws Raven123 Apr 2019 #33
I listened to NPR on the release and I was flabberghasted. Texin Apr 2019 #37
If we hadn't taken the house this would have been buried. Rizen Apr 2019 #40
None of this will matter, because all the MAGAts will hear is "NO COLLUSION and NO OBSTRUCTION" Still In Wisconsin Apr 2019 #41
Mueller couldn't conclude collusion because trump committed Obstruction berni_mccoy Apr 2019 #42
+1 Chin music Apr 2019 #52
So Trump is "innocent" only because TNNurse Apr 2019 #49
No. Mueller couldn't make a determination to prosecute because of DoJ Policy berni_mccoy Apr 2019 #50
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