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In reply to the discussion: Steny Hoyer: "...going forward on impeachment is not worthwhile..." [View all]angrychair
(12,545 posts)First off, to be clear, we are probably not going to agree on this and that is fine. At the end of the day we are on the same side and want Dems to win and trump to lose.
We can disagree without being disagreeable. If I've come across snarky or short I sincerely apologize. We can debate policy and candidates but on election day we need a united front across the board.
That said, the premise that its pointless to impeach because it can't get past the Senate is just as applicable to the position of why waste time passing bills in the House to just go and die in the Senate without even a vote? It's just as pointless as the impeachment argument.
House dems can do absolutely nothing for healthcare or jobs or education or the environment. Nothing. Because McTurtle is not going to even let it come to a vote.
Trump sure as hell isnt going to sign it into law.
We do it though. We have passed some amazing legislation out of the House only to die in the Senate. Why? To show that we are at least putting forth that effort and that the issue isn't us but the Republicans in the Senate.
That is no less true with impeachment. There is legitimately more than enough to get an impeachment in the House.
On paper at least, there is more than enough to get a conviction in the Senate.
That it might fail, like all the legislation we've sent to the Senate, is on Republicans, not Democrats.
I have faith that voters, at last enough of them, are smart enough to realize that.
To do nothing sends a message we don't want our name on: trump can do anything he wants and we are good with it.
The one thing American voters dislike more than anything else is weak and feckless politicians.