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olegramps

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53. The most important regarding the future of the nation is the willingness of
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:35 AM
Apr 2019

The most important aspect of the investigation is the revelation of the willingness of Trump and his aides to welcome the assistance of our sworn enemy to win the election. I not heard one word of concern by any Republican concerning this crucial matter. It matters not to the Republicans that in doing so they are betraying the nation and putting its existence in peril. It matters not to them that Trump has repeatedly called the investigation a witch hunt and the proven involvement of Russians in securing his election as a hoax.

This not a new development, but the policy of the Republicans for the last forty years in their quest to destroy the balance of power that was instituted by the framers of the constitution that created three independent separate and equal branches of power. This issue was explored in depth in the Federal Papers which discussed the constitution. They clearly foresaw exactly what is now being attempted by the Republicans if the presidency fell into the hands of an unprincipled president who would attempt to transform the presidency into an authoritarian office with no accountability to the courts or congress.

This is not a matter of conjuncture, but one of facts clearly brought out by this investigation. We have at the helm of the nation a man who sought to impose his will on the investigation and attempted numerous times to destroy it clearly indulging in obstruction of justice. Does this matter to Republicans? Clearly their only concern is that they won the presidency and it is totally irrelevant that it was gained with the assistance of our sworn enemies.



To me this is the most important aspect of this entire disaster. It not only bridges on conspiracy, it constitutes what our nation's founders would have considered treason to the basic vision of our nation. Their willingness to disregard the most egregious behavior of the president who is without a shred of morals solely to protect their party is betrayal at the highest level. This is the depths to which a major party has allowed itself to sink into crass immorality. What has been their gift to the nation? One corrupt and lawless administration after another dating from Nixon, Regan, Bush and now Trump. The must be defeated and their party destroyed if the nation is to survive as democracy. If left to their designs the nation is domed.











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That is the smoking gun right there... Takket Apr 2019 #1
+1,Barr should be impeached uponit7771 Apr 2019 #2
Was this Barr's position on obstruction or a broader position? triron Apr 2019 #5
Barr said that Mueller left the conclusion for him, and that he exonerated Trump nt coti Apr 2019 #12
And in so telling that lie, Barr committed obstruction. lagomorph777 Apr 2019 #13
they can lock up bdamomma Apr 2019 #35
That's pretty black-and-white. lagomorph777 Apr 2019 #39
Agreed. Plus Barr cut funding to stop Mueller from further investigating. Pelosi onit2day Apr 2019 #15
Predicting that will not happen. nt Duppers Apr 2019 #43
The most important regarding the future of the nation is the willingness of olegramps Apr 2019 #53
There's a lot of damaging stuff in the report, assuming the reader cares. Hoyt Apr 2019 #3
Many don't because Mueller wrote it and therefore it cannot possibly be trusted. tymorial Apr 2019 #26
That's the problem. Remember one trumper saying he didn't care what laws trump broke to get elected. Hoyt Apr 2019 #27
They will bdamomma Apr 2019 #36
These 22 pages probably have a lot more thought/analysis in them vs. the initial DoJ opinion... CincyDem Apr 2019 #4
I'm even more convinced Mueller's investigation was shut down. PragmaticLiberal Apr 2019 #6
+1 he wasn't done but was ordered to stop. Hassler Apr 2019 #8
That is what he's saying if you read between the lines ... basically he was told he couldn't mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #9
Boom! Roland99 Apr 2019 #7
Holy shit ismnotwasm Apr 2019 #10
Just Imagine...! B Stieg Apr 2019 #11
I agree with this Trump statement: "I'm fucked!" lagomorph777 Apr 2019 #16
I suspect the Grand Jury records show they would have charged Trump with Obstruction berni_mccoy Apr 2019 #48
It was an organized attempt to break laws, RICO! nt yaesu Apr 2019 #14
This is now actionable. BSdetect Apr 2019 #17
yes. Impeach Now. EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #19
Is it? The DOJ - William Barr - said otherwise. Texin Apr 2019 #34
Congress doesn't answer to the DOJ berni_mccoy Apr 2019 #45
UNFIT FOR OFFICE EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #18
Impeach! mountain grammy Apr 2019 #20
Sounds like Mueller wimped out LiberalLovinLug Apr 2019 #21
A snow job. There is no excuse. Mueller is a traitor along with the rest of the gop. nt DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #23
Mueller disagreed with Barr on DOJ Policy, but ultimately he must answer to it berni_mccoy Apr 2019 #24
sounds plausible bdamomma Apr 2019 #38
Well I'm confused then about what constitutes "traditional prosecutorial judgment" LiberalLovinLug Apr 2019 #54
Impeach now! Dem_4_Life Apr 2019 #22
ITTMF NOW! sinkingfeeling Apr 2019 #25
Barr Was Truly Trump's Firewall nt DallasNE Apr 2019 #28
K&R UTUSN Apr 2019 #29
Well now that this is being elucidated....and I'm sure more is to come.... Chakaconcarne Apr 2019 #30
Mueller could have recommended prosecution for one of these charges... Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #31
Actually he couldn't berni_mccoy Apr 2019 #44
Oh, yeah. I failed to mention, "Except for no permission from the boss." :) nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #46
The important question to ask: if it were anybody else doing what Trump harumph Apr 2019 #32
Under the standard in the Report, Nixon was wrongly threatened w/impeachment. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #47
+1 Chin music Apr 2019 #51
Time for Congress to pass a few laws Raven123 Apr 2019 #33
I listened to NPR on the release and I was flabberghasted. Texin Apr 2019 #37
If we hadn't taken the house this would have been buried. Rizen Apr 2019 #40
None of this will matter, because all the MAGAts will hear is "NO COLLUSION and NO OBSTRUCTION" Still In Wisconsin Apr 2019 #41
Mueller couldn't conclude collusion because trump committed Obstruction berni_mccoy Apr 2019 #42
+1 Chin music Apr 2019 #52
So Trump is "innocent" only because TNNurse Apr 2019 #49
No. Mueller couldn't make a determination to prosecute because of DoJ Policy berni_mccoy Apr 2019 #50
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