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SHRED

(28,136 posts) Tue Apr 23, 2019, 12:20 PM Apr 2019

Impeachment stops Presidential pardons [View all]

Last edited Tue Apr 23, 2019, 01:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Something to keep in mind.

Just mentioned on the Thom Hartmann Show.

I'd start them and since the Senate is pointless, just drag out the hearings. Pull a McConnell.
If a Dem wins the Presidency drag out impeachment through the lame duck session from Nov-Jan so he can't pardon.

ARTICLE II, SECTION 2, CLAUSE 1

"...and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

...and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/articles/article-ii

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Impeachment stops Presidential pardons [View all] SHRED Apr 2019 OP

Really? That's a new one for me. Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #1

Ford pardoned Nixon, didn't he? Ohiogal Apr 2019 #2

Correct davekriss Apr 2019 #5

I think that's a misinterpretation. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #3

That's correct. A few people seem to think that a President under investigation... PoliticAverse Apr 2019 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author honest.abe Apr 2019 #10

No, it doesn't. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2019 #4

I think you may have misunderstood that section of the Constitution. MineralMan Apr 2019 #6

How? sarisataka Apr 2019 #7

It doesn't work that way. nt Codeine Apr 2019 #9

Is that true? kentuck Apr 2019 #11

It's not. nt Codeine Apr 2019 #14

*** THIS IS TRUE, BUT ONLY OF TRUMP HIMSELF *** (link) uponit7771 Apr 2019 #12

That provision only means that trump can not stop himself from being removed Gothmog Apr 2019 #16

No, it doesn't. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #17

It says "pardons cannot apply to cases of impeachment" of course anything outside of that he can... uponit7771 Apr 2019 #19

Where is this in the Constitution? Gothmog Apr 2019 #13

The part somebody misread. nt Codeine Apr 2019 #15

Here SHRED Apr 2019 #20

That provision only means that trump can not stop himself from being removed Gothmog Apr 2019 #22

Says who? Not the Constitution. onenote Apr 2019 #18

My reading of this means that the Pres. can't pardon someone being impeached. If true, we should in2herbs Apr 2019 #21

I suspect you are correct but it would be nice to have an expert confirm. honest.abe Apr 2019 #28

I'm sure we can agree that James Madison is an expert StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #38

No, it doesn't! StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #23

You got it right Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #35

That is an unexplored section H2O Man Apr 2019 #24

It's not "unexplored" StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #25

What you are saying H2O Man Apr 2019 #26

That's not true StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #27

You are entitled H2O Man Apr 2019 #29

I'm a constitutional lawyer and former congressional counsel StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #32

You might try referencing the part of the constitution you are referring to ismnotwasm Apr 2019 #33

Wow StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #34

I'm not trying to be an ass ismnotwasm Apr 2019 #37

I think I misinterpreted your post StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #39

I generally stay out of this particular argument ismnotwasm Apr 2019 #40

Woosh. Constitution referring to pardons FOR impeachment, NOT WHILE being impeached Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #30

Actually, it means Pence can't pardon tRump if he is impeached. Does NOT stop Presidential pardons. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #31

No See post 23 Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #36