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AnotherMcIntosh

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28. On what factual basis do you claim that "Julian Assange is a Euro-trash asshole who's spent his

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Sun Aug 26, 2012, 01:08 PM

Aug 2012

entire adult life treating women like shit"?

Is there a factual basis for this?

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Good Julian vs Bad Julian [View all] renie408 Aug 2012 OP

Of course he can, and you see a fair number of people like me cali Aug 2012 #1

Assange has no problem being sent off to Sweden to face trial... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #94

no kidding. that's why I'm against his being extradited to Sweden. cali Aug 2012 #96

Because... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #97

Sure. You can be like Roman Polanski: make brilliant movies and Chorophyll Aug 2012 #2

That's what I was thinking. renie408 Aug 2012 #9

I don't doubt that governments (mainly ours) would love to get their hands on him. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #20

If ad hominem arguments can be used to convict anybody, then we should all agree that he is guilty. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #26

Then he needs to face the music in Sweden, regardless of how we characterize his behavior. randome Aug 2012 #29

I believe I said that Polanski was an extreme example. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #33

It is an extreme example. But an extreme example of what? He's not Polanski and he is not AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #42

I was responding to the OP and that was an example that came to mind. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #47

Thank you for your request. Please let me assure you that I am not "attempting to read" your mind. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #63

You keep using that word.... renie408 Aug 2012 #64

I agree with you that "She did not compare Assange DIRECTLY to Polanski or call him 'Polanski like'. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #66

Julian Assange is a Euro-trash asshole who's spent his entire adult life treating women like shit. baldguy Aug 2012 #3

Politicians are embarrassed every day. randome Aug 2012 #4

Bingo. 99Forever Aug 2012 #7

On what factual basis do you claim that "Julian Assange is a Euro-trash asshole who's spent his AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #28

The same basis that people have to convict him solely on the stength of the accusation. baldguy Aug 2012 #52

The U.K. made an ill-advised reminder of diplomatic versus political asylum. randome Aug 2012 #60

The massing of the British police was just part of the reminder and not part of a threat? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #69

It was a piss-poor reaction to events. No doubt about it. randome Aug 2012 #74

They retroactively repudiated their threat? backscatter712 Aug 2012 #82

They apologized, according to Ecuador. randome Aug 2012 #87

The UK certainly owed Equador an apology. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #99

They don't need to do all that treestar Aug 2012 #40

What do you call threatening to invade the embassy? baldguy Aug 2012 #55

They are not invading the embassy treestar Aug 2012 #72

That's not what they said last week. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #86

UK protected war criminal Pinochet but Assange isn't charged with any crime WillYourVoteBCounted Aug 2012 #5

Pinochet used legal maneuvers to delay his extradition until his defense team... randome Aug 2012 #6

Pinochet was also personal friends with high officials in the UK and US govts. baldguy Aug 2012 #14

His legal team still used the appeals process to delay and obstruct. randome Aug 2012 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #8

That is pretty much what I just posted upthread. renie408 Aug 2012 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #16

It's still bullshit. They knew it was the one accusation that could turn Progressives against him. Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #11

I am curious renie408 Aug 2012 #12

Like Scott Ritter, maybe? randome Aug 2012 #13

Worked once... baldguy Aug 2012 #15

Yeah, pretty much. renie408 Aug 2012 #18

You do realize that "the things they say he did" amount to a broken condom, Lionessa Aug 2012 #19

Right. It's a minor thing, not a honey trap at all. randome Aug 2012 #22

He was neutralized anyway when Amazon, etc. dropped him treestar Aug 2012 #39

If AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #46

Of course there is no proof. It's a he said/she said thing. randome Aug 2012 #49

True, there's no proof. I'm not even sure that it is a "he said/she said" or a police-say thing. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #65

It could be that in cases involving sex, direct transcripts are routinely withheld... randome Aug 2012 #67

That can't be the case because they already released some direct transcripts in this case. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #80

The one thing that is NOT speculation is that the U.K. appeals process validated everything. randome Aug 2012 #84

"why would they not already have extradited Assange"? Maybe he went to the Ecuadorian embassy. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #90

Another thing I am curious about... renie408 Aug 2012 #32

Not only true, but the he's-a-rapist-advocates don't even know if there was a broken condom. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #34

False. Robb Aug 2012 #61

I bet you're amazed at how many times these facts have to be posted... SidDithers Aug 2012 #100

At this point, I have ceased commenting about Assange MineralMan Aug 2012 #17

Why can't he be both, you ask? Asking that we accept (1) that which is fact based and (2) that AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #21

Because the rape allegations don't seem as concrete as they should, Cleita Aug 2012 #23

Ok, THANKS... renie408 Aug 2012 #36

Nobody's saying Assange didn't behave like a douche. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #43

Then what he committed needs a name, because he committed something. renie408 Aug 2012 #50

This is where there is no black and white. Apparently there was consensual sex here both Cleita Aug 2012 #88

Nobody? I'm not sure that there is universal agreement, without proof, that he behaved "like AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #54

See, you are kind of what I am talking about with Camp Good Julian. n/t renie408 Aug 2012 #57

Your bilateral thinking is shown by your original post and your present claim that I fall within AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #77

I don't care if you buy or not. renie408 Aug 2012 #85

The lynching vigilantes are doing exactly what our CIA wants them to do, Cleita Aug 2012 #89

While I love a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #101

Then the propaganda is working - the government wants us polarized. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #25

"Low-level sexual misbehavior." Robb Aug 2012 #27

Not 'legitimate' sexual misbehavior. randome Aug 2012 #30

Yep. Not the kind that the woman's body can "shut down." Chorophyll Aug 2012 #38

There's the false equivalence again. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #45

The only way he should be treated is according to Swedish laws. randome Aug 2012 #48

Again, you're assuming that Sweden's behaving honestly in this case. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #71

There is no 'evidence' one way or the other to think he is being singled out. randome Aug 2012 #73

Are the women themselves calling it rape? No. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #37

"Acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity." Robb Aug 2012 #53

To me it would be better to say, "Yeah, he's a creep.... renie408 Aug 2012 #41

Exactly. It's a tactic as old as Rome. Manipulate public opinion against someone Cleita Aug 2012 #91

The "good" he did is questionable treestar Aug 2012 #31

Ineffective? So, things went according to plan. Excellent! Pholus Aug 2012 #35

Your post doesn't make sense. treestar Aug 2012 #44

scratches head nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #58

Yes, but do they 'dislike' having their dirty linen in the open... randome Aug 2012 #62

There were 4 major leakages treestar Aug 2012 #75

It embarrassed MULTIPLE governments nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #83

But they are not doing anything about it treestar Aug 2012 #93

That is not the point. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #95

Then you didn't think about it long enough. Pholus Aug 2012 #78

Like Good JFK and Bad JFK. Or good/bad Woodrow Wilson. OR good/bad Napoleon Bonaparte. Bucky Aug 2012 #51

I have always thought that the kind of ego that would make you renie408 Aug 2012 #56

So did the Founding Fathers Bucky Aug 2012 #59

Even Gandhi wasn't a complete saint. leveymg Aug 2012 #68

I think you have raised a very interesting point. People are complex. nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #70

And complex people exceedingly so. I wouldn't want the world led by saints and simpletons. leveymg Aug 2012 #76

Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #92

It's all in the name. randome Aug 2012 #79

I'm sure he is both a brilliant man and an asshole LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #81

when he let go of 250k cable with absolutely no check in place for innocent lives, i turned on him seabeyond Aug 2012 #98