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EX500rider

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122. No thanks. My guns don't hurt "society" Maybe you should give up your car for the good of society?

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:17 PM

Apr 2019

Trying to get rid of rifles which hardy kill anyone in comparison to pistols is silly.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls

Pistols kill over 9,000 every year. Rifles around 400.

Also things that kill more people:

Ladders and stairs, whatever's under your sink and in your medicine cabinet and whatever is parked in your driveway.
Maybe you should get rid of all those, you know, "for the good of society"?

Unintentional fall deaths
Number of deaths: 34,673
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.7

Motor vehicle traffic deaths
Number of deaths: 40,327
Deaths per 100,000 population: 12.5

Unintentional poisoning deaths
Number of deaths: 58,335
Deaths per 100,000 population: 18.1

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm

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Semi automatics need to be outlawed [View all] SHRED Apr 2019 OP

+100000000000. Gun-strokers will whine and claim it's unpatriotic. Tough! Hoyt Apr 2019 #1

There is no need for these weapons SHRED Apr 2019 #2

It's a great idea TheRealNorth Apr 2019 #129

My little 9mm does exactly what you describe at140 May 2019 #179

Just a thought: IggleDuer Apr 2019 #3

Semi automatic what? N/T bluecollar2 Apr 2019 #4

Semi-automatic shit-wits? Perhaps? Maru Kitteh Apr 2019 #54

This won't happen Lithos Apr 2019 #5

We can land a man on the moon SHRED Apr 2019 #6

No, it's a case of definition Lithos Apr 2019 #7

Yep impossible SHRED Apr 2019 #8

Whatever Lithos Apr 2019 #12

Actually, defining semi-automatic is quite easy, if you actually know how firearms work. better Apr 2019 #16

You have done a great deal to define the issue Lithos Apr 2019 #20

You must be able to identify an AR-15 hammer spring blind folded to have an opinion on brewens Apr 2019 #77

Give the poster ("better") credit for wanting action on high capacity magazines MH1 Apr 2019 #154

Last time, with the assault weapons ban, they ramped up manufacturing of those magazines brewens May 2019 #164

I was one of the few regulars at the gun range who didn't buy hi-cap magazines... spin May 2019 #192

I couldn't identify an AR-15 hammer spring without a blindfold but ... spin May 2019 #191

The steady line has been ( and will be) that the reason for the 2nd Amendment... Baconator Apr 2019 #27

The other issue is that 95% or more of homicides are single-victim incidents krispos42 Apr 2019 #155

Nailed it Amishman May 2019 #185

It's not even that complex krispos42 May 2019 #187

There were no aliens on the moon shooting at us when we landed. .... spin Apr 2019 #72

Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #131

Mentally unstable sarisataka Apr 2019 #138

Excellent questions all, which will no doubt be dodged with the skill of a NFL wide receiver... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #159

I am truly shocked sarisataka May 2019 #170

I have talked to the locals in my area. ... spin Apr 2019 #140

Too bad the public doesn't care that much hack89 Apr 2019 #9

Not enough.... sarisataka Apr 2019 #10

*SIGH* ADX Apr 2019 #13

It is ironic sarisataka Apr 2019 #23

You're almost there, but lets kick it up a notch...... Fla_Democrat Apr 2019 #14

Now you are thinking outside the box sarisataka Apr 2019 #24

Maybe an expiration date is in order..... Fla_Democrat Apr 2019 #98

Where is a useful "Saloth Sr" when you need one? discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #163

No they don't and no they won't. ... ADX Apr 2019 #11

disarm? handmade34 Apr 2019 #28

LOL, ok! Nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #32

I don't think we should tacitly advocate threatening to shoot at our government with guns ... uponit7771 Apr 2019 #33

I didn't advocate for anything of the sort... ADX Apr 2019 #85

Yeah, 'disarm' means take our arms off at the shoulder and kissing our rights 'goodbye' uponit7771 Apr 2019 #91

Oh really? Is that what "disarm" means? To "take (someone's) arms off at the shoulder"? ADX Apr 2019 #93

In 1994 Ronald Reagan supported the assault weapons ban. Every Republican needs to be asked at every scrutineer Apr 2019 #15

There's one problem with that idea. better Apr 2019 #19

Your number one is factually false on its face due to bump stocks and number 4 is the reason why... uponit7771 Apr 2019 #34

No, point number one is not in fact false, per the actual language of the AWB. better Apr 2019 #53

You do understand that all rifles kill less people then knives, hand, feet & clubs? EX500rider Apr 2019 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Apr 2019 #99

This lame ass argument again. mac56 Apr 2019 #118

Trying to ban something that won't put a dent in the homicide rate but will elect a bunch of GOP's EX500rider Apr 2019 #119

We're dealing with actual animists who believe inanimate objects control minds... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #160

It is amazing...they seem to think banning AR15's will somehow matter... EX500rider May 2019 #173

Simple Solution fescuerescue Apr 2019 #48

You beat me to it. Sparkly May 2019 #188

The AWB leaves semi-automatics legal, unfortunately Recursion Apr 2019 #38

On the other hand... better Apr 2019 #57

I do sometimes think fixed magazines are the answer here Recursion Apr 2019 #64

In concept, I'd agree with that, to a point. better Apr 2019 #67

I'm thinking of the AR in particular Recursion Apr 2019 #68

He supported it because it didn't actually ban military style weapons hack89 Apr 2019 #44

Nope. aikoaiko Apr 2019 #17

Hmmm, what a shock! Nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #127

That's a thought that ought to get a lot of GOP voted in to office. nt EX500rider Apr 2019 #18

No it wont, the polling is with the OP not this opinion uponit7771 Apr 2019 #35

Really.. EX500rider Apr 2019 #49

Please link to that polling. former9thward Apr 2019 #86

here uponit7771 Apr 2019 #88

Nope, not at all. former9thward Apr 2019 #100

Semi-Automatic what? GulfCoast66 Apr 2019 #21

Geez, how heavy is your portfolio into private prisons? tritsofme Apr 2019 #22

Stuff like this is what keeps the NRA funded and bunkers stocked... Baconator Apr 2019 #25

Polling is with OP not NRA on this issue uponit7771 Apr 2019 #37

Polling for stricter gun laws! atreides1 Apr 2019 #51

Strawman, no one said confiscation uponit7771 Apr 2019 #89

Did you read the OP? Baconator Apr 2019 #109

Confiscated means take in this case just don't get caught with one uponit7771 Apr 2019 #110

Distinction without a difference... Baconator Apr 2019 #111

Polling doesn't gauge how strongly people feel about an issue Kaleva Apr 2019 #55

70% want stricter assault weapons laws uponit7771 Apr 2019 #90

But that 70% really don't fight for it that hard. Kaleva Apr 2019 #97

You say that like it's true...lol...feel free to post a link to a poll.. EX500rider Apr 2019 #71

You can google like I can uponit7771 Apr 2019 #92

"Stricter assault weapon laws" has zero to do with confiscation or outlawing. nt EX500rider Apr 2019 #94

Stricter doesn't communicate more in any way uponit7771 Apr 2019 #95

The amount of support for a semi-auto ban and confiscation would be in the single digits. nt EX500rider Apr 2019 #96

The NRA needs to be taken care of to fescuerescue Apr 2019 #47

No, no, no. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #26

So, because you never have no one else ever has or will ever have a need? Your experience is... Marengo Apr 2019 #60

Yeah, I think I'll go there. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #69

And your "there" is more conceited rubbish. For those who have actually used a firearm in... Marengo Apr 2019 #70

"I'm 70 years old and have NEVER, NEVER, NEVER felt a need for a gun." EX500rider Apr 2019 #73

So your need for an AR15 trump's everyone else's need for safety. Hoyt Apr 2019 #101

I don't have or need a AR-15....but outlawing ALL rifles won't put a dent in the US homicide rate.. EX500rider Apr 2019 #106

Yeah, let's do nothing for another decade and put another 100 Million guns on the street that we'll Hoyt Apr 2019 #115

Who said I have a "daily carry weapon"? EX500rider Apr 2019 #116

Then, you should find it pretty easy to give up your guns for the good of society. Hoyt Apr 2019 #121

No thanks. My guns don't hurt "society" Maybe you should give up your car for the good of society? EX500rider Apr 2019 #122

Come on EZrider, unintentional poisoning deaths have not relevance in our gun problem. Your problem Hoyt Apr 2019 #123

Sure, I give them up....as soon as.. EX500rider Apr 2019 #147

Give up all his guns? What of the one or two you have previously made allowances for? Marengo Apr 2019 #124

Marengo, who is your favorite in the Democratic Primary? Hoyt Apr 2019 #125

Irrelevant to the topic of this thread, how about an answer to my question? Marengo Apr 2019 #128

I see you are looking to come out of retirement. SQUEE Apr 2019 #133

I see all gunners -- that have been quiet for awhile -- must have issued call to arms on this thread Hoyt Apr 2019 #134

Recent events in this country have re-affirmed my desire to stay armed SQUEE Apr 2019 #136

Gunners have been promoting guns for a long time, and guns are the threat we all have to Hoyt Apr 2019 #139

An ARMED man stopped him Hoyt. SQUEE Apr 2019 #141

He was run out of the synagogue by unarmed people. Anger and guns don't mix well, SQUEE. Hoyt Apr 2019 #142

The Rabbi has stated differently, the news has stated differently. SQUEE Apr 2019 #143

More guns aren't going to protect anyone. Besides, you were promoting guns Hoyt Apr 2019 #144

Promoting guns, another mischaracterization SQUEE Apr 2019 #145

You used the term "recent" first. I'm sorry, more guns won't protect you or Hoyt Apr 2019 #149

*Do* let us know when *you'll* be providing unarmed security at a synagogue or black church friendly_iconoclast Apr 2019 #156

LMAO. And you are just another gun-stroker who thinks he's going to save the world toting Hoyt May 2019 #166

Hoyt, I'm just like you A: I don't own guns, and B: I'm not doing anything to restrict them friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #175

Contemplating restarting your robbery career, and worried about job safety? friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #178

Did you carry a gun or guns when you used to rob people? friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #161

I wonder how Hoyt will respond. Whenever I remind him of this he never directly denies having Marengo May 2019 #184

The gun control claque is quite open about expecting *others* to 'take one for the team'... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #182

Perhaps all civilian weapons should be required to be pink. rickford66 Apr 2019 #29

Maybe rainbow instead. better Apr 2019 #56

No. This is an Ill- informed statement and is EXACTLY Drahthaardogs Apr 2019 #30

THIS!! bluestarone Apr 2019 #39

Vegas shooter had weapons that weren't semi-automatic either if I remember correctly... Baconator Apr 2019 #113

Not a good idea inwiththenew Apr 2019 #31

Yup, you'd need to grandfather or pay way above market value Amishman Apr 2019 #146

This proposal makes 1000% more sense than the assault weapons ban (nt) Recursion Apr 2019 #36

True, but that's because the Assault Weapons Ban makes almost no sense. aikoaiko Apr 2019 #40

No. It's stupid and made by someone who doesn't understand firearms Drahthaardogs Apr 2019 #41

And that *still* is more sensible than an AWB (nt) Recursion Apr 2019 #42

Yeah, I was referring to the OP, not the other statement Drahthaardogs Apr 2019 #43

And the rest after that fescuerescue Apr 2019 #45

Satire/sarcasm is hard to detect over the internet. I hope you are not tritsofme Apr 2019 #50

"They will still have knives and clubs," EX500rider Apr 2019 #74

No. We need them in case thirty people break into our house at night... Aristus Apr 2019 #46

That would be an (idiotic) argument in favor of keeping high capacity magazines, not semi-autos. better Apr 2019 #58

'I need them to protect myself if someone breaks into my house at night' is already Aristus Apr 2019 #59

That might be easy to say when it hasn't happened to you. better Apr 2019 #61

The people it does happen to tend to end up blasting family members instead of spooky, scary Aristus Apr 2019 #62

Perhaps you can advocate for your position without making light of real trauma. better Apr 2019 #66

Home invasion is a serious matter and not to be laughed about Kaleva Apr 2019 #63

A cursory Google search indicates that invasions of occupied homes at night do in fact occur. Marengo Apr 2019 #65

"they're going to break in when you're not there." Sure of that are you? EX500rider Apr 2019 #75

im in central wash in the mountains...5 acres of beautiful solitude.. and i HAVE had people bang.. samnsara Apr 2019 #104

"Guns for me, but not for thee", eh? friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #176

K & R Maru Kitteh Apr 2019 #52

K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2019 #76

I have to turn in my pistol? It is semi automatic LiberalArkie Apr 2019 #79

Yes, and get a Sig. Fla_Democrat Apr 2019 #102

+1 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #107

Agree sarisataka Apr 2019 #120

So for having the Remington 22 we gave my dad 60 years ago aka-chmeee Apr 2019 #80

Or this semi automatic BB gun LiberalArkie Apr 2019 #81

hey thats MY gun! samnsara Apr 2019 #83

heck NO! I LIKE my semi automatic. Hubby and I took saftey courses, competed in shoots and.. samnsara Apr 2019 #82

I suspect that folks who make silly proposals like this don't live in places where it might come up. Baconator Apr 2019 #114

K&R... spanone Apr 2019 #84

Realistically, we're generations away from that happening. maxsolomon Apr 2019 #87

I have no great love for guns but I do like to have my .22 for varmits - I haven't shot my shotgun walkingman Apr 2019 #103

Anyone should have access to an AR-15 SCantiGOP Apr 2019 #105

Nether of which issue or use the AR15. n/t oneshooter Apr 2019 #152

You know that is misleading SCantiGOP Apr 2019 #153

Then you'll get pump action AR-15 style rifles, for good bad or indifferent: friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #162

Oh, guns don't kill people, right? SCantiGOP May 2019 #165

Any talk of gun control always seems to bite us in the ass jcmaine72 Apr 2019 #108

So you advocate candidates saying whatever it takes to get elected... MichMan Apr 2019 #148

So you want them elected Codeine Apr 2019 #151

Don't you just love the way some people around here like to put words in other people's mouths? jcmaine72 May 2019 #183

Only 24 recs here at DU pintobean Apr 2019 #112

Let's not and say we didn't. Bonx Apr 2019 #117

You're talking about most guns zipplewrath Apr 2019 #126

What if the Russians invade? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #130

or rabid, recently empowered anti-Semites come to your shul to kill you. SQUEE Apr 2019 #135

It's long past time for armed "Gabbais for Defense and Justice" groups to form friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #157

Not so! Soxfan58 Apr 2019 #132

You might want to read the 5th Amendment again. rsdsharp Apr 2019 #137

I've been mulling about getting my concealed-carry license Seeking Serenity Apr 2019 #150

Gun control advocates come in 2 types:1) animist fools that think inanimate objects cause crime... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #158

Just between you and me Seeking Serenity May 2019 #167

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2019 #168

Welcome to DU sarisataka May 2019 #169

Pizza time. irisblue May 2019 #171

So what do you like on pizza MrH? irisblue May 2019 #172

I have a better idea Seeking Serenity May 2019 #174

I Understand All it Takes is Filing Down a Pin to Make a Semiautomatic an Automatic dlk May 2019 #177

Your understanding sarisataka May 2019 #180

Could Be. Someone Who Was a Firearms Guy Shared that Tidbit With Me a Long Time Ago dlk May 2019 #181

Think about that for a minute Fla_Democrat May 2019 #189

I'm Not a Gun Person, Nor Do I Care to Be dlk May 2019 #190

Congrats to the OP- This thread brought out most of the would-be cultural cleansers friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #186