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118. This is why I have rechambered to 6.5 Grendel

Thu May 2, 2019, 12:04 PM

May 2019

I hunt and have switched my hunting rifles to 6.5 Grendel as it has near .308 power and range but the recoil of 5.56 NATO. The velocity is 1780fps and 870ft lbs @ 500 yards vs 5.56 which is 1325fps and 215ft lbs @ 500 yards. It stays supersonic to 1200yds which typically indicates a rounds accuracy range.

I assemble AR’s myself with a handful of basic tools this and the current costs are why AR’s are as popular as they are a fully equipped rifle in 6.5G with a 4x14 scope can be built for around $500. In this configuration it can put all rounds in a 10” pie plate at 1000yds. That is double to three times the range of most 5.56 rifles.

I look at firearms as tools not an idol to be worshipped. They have their place in our country and like it or not the AR is the most popular rifle in our country because it is cost effective and versatile. They can easily be configured for long range, short range, up to .50 caliber down to .17 also in most pistol calibers such as 9mm and .45ACP. The design is around 70 years old and can be made at home with common hand tools.

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AR-15 [View all] swag Apr 2019 OP

"It's too soon to discuss this!" "Don't politicize these tragedies!" "Thoughts and---- Atticus Apr 2019 #1

I don't think we can eliminate crazy people hell bent on killing... mitch96 Apr 2019 #2

Guns don't kill people Major Nikon Apr 2019 #7

A nuclear bomb doesn't kill people. The person who triggers it does! Oneironaut Apr 2019 #18

+++++++ pangaia Apr 2019 #33

+ struggle4progress Apr 2019 #43

Actually I think they figured that one out: trucks EX500rider Apr 2019 #92

re: "In Europe when you can't readily get an semi automatic weapon..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2019 #94

And the AR-15 is the favorite of ignorant white wing racist gun-humpers. Hoyt Apr 2019 #3

"AR-15 is the favorite" mitch96 Apr 2019 #12

I think you can 3D print them. defacto7 Apr 2019 #21

No...you can't 3d print them. AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #62

That would be a rough call... mitch96 Apr 2019 #73

If only we could figure out the common element in all these mass shootings! Poiuyt Apr 2019 #4

Mental Illness is the most common element. madville Apr 2019 #5

And the easy access to GUNS! redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #6

Access to guns used to be easier Kaleva Apr 2019 #13

I was being sarcastic Poiuyt Apr 2019 #8

I got your sarcasm. lunatica Apr 2019 #10

You might have a point. But it won't eliminate the AR-15. It must be banned. YOHABLO Apr 2019 #9

How do you propose to do that? Kaleva Apr 2019 #16

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So you need an AR-15 to protect yourself? defacto7 Apr 2019 #23

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How do you manage to carry a rifle on you 24/7? Kaleva Apr 2019 #29

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My revolver is my home defense weapon Kaleva Apr 2019 #36

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I enjoy the discussions about the use of guns for self/home defense for one simple reason Kaleva Apr 2019 #46

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I am glad I am not that paranoid. Wow, feel sorry for you. nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #51

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Crime rates violent and murders are WAY DOWN since the 1990s. If you think you need a gun..... USALiberal Apr 2019 #55

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If you have ever been in a disaster zone bluecollar2 Apr 2019 #67

I agree, there are some times it is needed, not 24/7/365. nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #69

The problem is that bluecollar2 Apr 2019 #80

No need to feel sorry for me. I'm a happy, peaceful person. Kaleva Apr 2019 #79

Revolvers are excellent self defense weapons... spin Apr 2019 #82

You touched on some of the reasons as to why I chose a revolver. Kaleva Apr 2019 #85

It sounds like an excellent, well thought out plan to me. (n/t) spin Apr 2019 #88

This is something I wish people would consider more carefully. better Apr 2019 #104

Interesting idea. (n/t) spin Apr 2019 #106

No, I dont... reACTIONary Apr 2019 #75

I'm thinking a howitzer. Or maybe a tank gun. scarletwoman Apr 2019 #27

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You can own either with the correct license... AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #71

Oh, ffs... scarletwoman Apr 2019 #81

Well....you can. AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #96

Seems America has a monopoly on mental illness aeromanKC Apr 2019 #14

The US has the highest rate of untreated serious mental illness madville Apr 2019 #39

There are also clear links between accessibility of weapons and mass shooters. LanternWaste Apr 2019 #89

really? barbtries Apr 2019 #26

No. Many of the people who do these shootings PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #38

Only if you think all murderous hatred is genuine mental illness. Some people are just evil, okay? Hekate Apr 2019 #57

White, christian, right-wing men. smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #50

Unless one is serious about banning semiautos all together, the AR15 style rifle is here to stay. Kaleva Apr 2019 #11

I still believe we can have a law that limits muzzle velocity. CaptainTruth Apr 2019 #15

We are not that far off in agreement. Kaleva Apr 2019 #22

It's the cartridge the AR is designed around 1cheapbeemr Apr 2019 #17

Modern AR15 style rifles can fire anything from .22s to shotgun shells Kaleva Apr 2019 #24

Stuff and nonsense 1cheapbeemr Apr 2019 #99

So you have more of an issue with the cartridge and not the gun itself Kaleva Apr 2019 #100

That's a pretty well articulated concept. better Apr 2019 #105

And most every modern day assault rifle fires a cartridge that I talked about Kaleva Apr 2019 #108

Oh I'm aware that they are well regulated. better Apr 2019 #109

And the point of any if this is?..... 1cheapbeemr Apr 2019 #110

Again, it appears you have issue with the particlur cartridge and not the gun Kaleva Apr 2019 #111

Bingo - we have a keen grasp of the obvious! 1cheapbeemr May 2019 #114

The Army is considering switching to a larger round. Kaleva May 2019 #115

Fantastic! 1cheapbeemr May 2019 #116

I think the round to be useless myself. At least in my case. Kaleva May 2019 #117

This is why I have rechambered to 6.5 Grendel DVRacer May 2019 #118

I agree. The AR isn't going to go away. Kaleva May 2019 #121

I was at the 'Celebration of Life' of one of the Vegas victims 1cheapbeemr May 2019 #122

"Number of murder victims in the United States in 2017, by weapon" Kaleva May 2019 #123

What do you mean by "posers"? Marengo May 2019 #119

Are you aware the AR platform is modular? Marengo May 2019 #120

That's certainly what the bumper stickers and t-shirts allege. LanternWaste Apr 2019 #90

There's been no effort to ban guns that have the internal workings of an AR-15 Kaleva Apr 2019 #91

LIMIT MUZZLE VELOCITY CaptainTruth Apr 2019 #19

It's not velocity....it's impact energy...ft/lbs..that's the factor AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #49

Gunsplaining that is finally clear HopeAgain Apr 2019 #30

If This Keeps Up, the AR-15 Is Going to Get a Bad Reputation! DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #32

The AR-15 was originally designed and manufactured for the United States Army. George II Apr 2019 #34

In fact it was the AR-10..... AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #58

That was the first model of the weapon. The AR-15 was based on the design of the AR-10.... George II Apr 2019 #61

Again..not true.... AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #63

It was. As a light weapon for people inexperienced with the heavier battle rifles. Caliman73 Apr 2019 #112

Back when I was a kid... mbusby Apr 2019 #35

Does DU still have the gungeon? llmart Apr 2019 #37

how soon was too soon for nz? they banned them in months AllaN01Bear Apr 2019 #41

Really what we need is to understand WHY it's the weapon of choice in mass shootings. better Apr 2019 #42

Terrorisms' weapon of choice. randr Apr 2019 #44

Last month a GWB Bush Judge lifted Ca's Ban on Hi Ca Mags:100,000s sold here between 3/28-4/28 stuffmatters Apr 2019 #45

I believe that ruling sarisataka Apr 2019 #47

I appreciate the correx.but still find the probable connex tween the dates of his hatecrimes impt stuffmatters Apr 2019 #48

Outlawing the AR-15 isn't going to solve the problem of mass shootings ADX Apr 2019 #52

Well, the prevailing wisdom in these parts is..... Fla_Democrat Apr 2019 #65

I'm with you on the bit about the problem not being the gun. better Apr 2019 #103

And it's still available....That many people die from anything else and it would be gone. spanone Apr 2019 #54

Many more die from handguns.. AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #60

40,000+ people were killed by cars last year AND the year before... ADX Apr 2019 #77

Cars are pretty useful for transportation. Progressive dog Apr 2019 #84

Rifles kill around 400 on avg per year EX500rider Apr 2019 #93

This Snackshack Apr 2019 #56

NZ doesen't have a Bill of Rights. AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #64

No. Snackshack Apr 2019 #66

It doesn't say anything about Iphone 10's or LT's in the 1st...and you misread Heller AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #70

re: "Furthermore the 2nd amendment..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2019 #87

Actually, they have a Constitution... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2019 #86

You linked it.... AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #95

Exactly discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2019 #98

It doesn't feel any better when its not an AR-15. aikoaiko Apr 2019 #68

Yep...and in Poway and Auroua...the AR's failed.... AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #72

Semi automatics need to be outlawed SHRED Apr 2019 #76

How will that become a thing? AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #97

I put about 200 rounds through one of mine this afternoon. ginny skinny Apr 2019 #78

If the NRA had a lick of sense bmbmd Apr 2019 #83

I travel all over the world gopiscrap Apr 2019 #101

Weaponized vehicles will be used to kill masses of people. democratisphere Apr 2019 #102

Indeed, concentrating on the How instead of the Why is a mistake. EX500rider Apr 2019 #107

Won't help as much as you might think PBC_Democrat Apr 2019 #113