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Maven

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11. The U.S. as it existed for much of the 20th and early 21st century is over.

Sun May 5, 2019, 12:51 PM

May 2019

I've thought that for quite some time. We are not really functioning as one unified country and we likely never will again. The question is whether we have a soft landing or a hard one.

What I find the most darkly comical, at this point, is the number within our ranks who are anxious to save "the Constitution". It is the Constitution that enables the GOP to rule from the minority. They have become experts at exploiting all its gaps, gray areas and design flaws to solidify their power and block us from governing effectively.

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Sooner or later the shit is going to hit the fan. [View all] shockey80 May 2019 OP

First of all 60% of America doesnt know this is happening, another 20% knows and Eliot Rosewater May 2019 #1

Explain "Far Left"? Dennis Donovan May 2019 #3

Why obvious things need explanations? at140 May 2019 #4

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #8

Is that all you got out of this post??? murielm99 May 2019 #39

DSA crazytown May 2019 #61

.. Eliot Rosewater May 2019 #74

You are, unfortunately, all too correct. bitterross May 2019 #18

They'll only wake up when trump starts ww3 and the nukes are inbound nt maryellen99 May 2019 #27

Point of clarification. MarvinGardens May 2019 #33

Sorry to disagree Butterflylady May 2019 #49

And ALL of this because people had to HOLD THEIR NOSE to vote for the MOST QUALIFIED Eliot Rosewater May 2019 #75

I agree LibFarmer May 2019 #63

Not where you are at DownriverDem May 2019 #72

What is your accusation now? WHAT are YOU saying? Eliot Rosewater May 2019 #73

Pretty negative outlook on our prospects for saidsimplesimon May 2019 #77

The POINT of being NEGATIVE is to GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION Eliot Rosewater May 2019 #79

Except for one salient fact. Republicans have NO soul. Meaning they have no low threshold... Dennis Donovan May 2019 #2

I will repeat---It ain't gonna end well randr May 2019 #5

I keep thinking that there must be a point where even Trump's most avid supporters will say that he Arkansas Granny May 2019 #6

There is no end point as long as they get what they think they want. History shows that. marylandblue May 2019 #9

And that's a scary reality that we may be KPN May 2019 #59

Agreed. It's quite scary. The pendulum has to swing back though... brush May 2019 #10

Agree - they dont even care if he cilla4progress May 2019 #14

Trumpanzee's will abandon him when this happens... at140 May 2019 #36

The economy goes on the blink in a big way. murielm99 May 2019 #40

Economy is going south in a big way, but at140 May 2019 #47

I agree with Shockey80, that's this isn't going to end well. Firestorm49 May 2019 #43

As Republican David Frum said .... Grasswire2 May 2019 #53

Will? They already have. KPN May 2019 #60

Nixon's most avid supporters remained avid. He still had a 25% approval rating The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #52

well, they kinda care barbtries May 2019 #68

2020 will be the decision point. We may be stalemated until then. marylandblue May 2019 #7

Yes. 2020 will be decisive lunatica May 2019 #21

Very well said. Firestorm49 May 2019 #44

The U.S. as it existed for much of the 20th and early 21st century is over. Maven May 2019 #11

You are correct of course zipplewrath May 2019 #76

I'm curious about how you think "fate will step in and decide things for us." Towlie May 2019 #12

You're absolutely right, of course; "fate" never decides anything. Ligyron May 2019 #64

I agree Penn Voter May 2019 #13

Since I have no crystal ball, I'll just go along with this scenario because I like it. dameatball May 2019 #17

Enjoy Cinco de Mayo, dameatball! Penn Voter May 2019 #32

Climate change is going to drive change. Whether it's a democratic or a military approach to dealing jalan48 May 2019 #15

All of these goons will have to answer as to why they did nothing about the climate crises. trickyguy May 2019 #20

If we don't address climate change, there will be no social justice. marylandblue May 2019 #23

I agree. The future is not rosy for any of us. lunatica May 2019 #22

Trump will run out the clock... Catch2.2 May 2019 #16

They will know they can do what they want either way. marylandblue May 2019 #25

Gotta wash socks. BBL. n/t rzemanfl May 2019 #45

You're right. Things just can't keep going on this way. Paladin May 2019 #19

Well, the way climate change is going ... ananda May 2019 #24

I was in SE Asia and India recently at140 May 2019 #37

I was a younger teen during the Watergate years and I remember feeling so hopeless . That Nixon ReformedGOPer May 2019 #26

Turned 21 in '73, all to vivid in memory bigbrother05 May 2019 #65

I think it was you, not too long ago, saying rump was toast, history, done, etc.? Tipperary May 2019 #28

"Brains'll only get you so far and luck always runs out." no_hypocrisy May 2019 #29

the shit has already hit the fan but no one can or will clean it up. nt yaesu May 2019 #30

My hubby fears a worst-case scenario Duppers May 2019 #31

That's not the way authoritarian culture works TrogL May 2019 #34

Does anyone think IQ45 is healthy? QED May 2019 #35

Agreed on Pence being scary at140 May 2019 #48

Things are about to blow, we're entering uncharted territory appalachiablue May 2019 #38

If only Republicans had any patriotism and respect for the law and Constitution it could end well. Kablooie May 2019 #41

Everyone is following Trump down the rabbit hole playaseeker May 2019 #42

We just need to give reasonable incrementalism more time... doompatrol39 May 2019 #46

There is no way in hell this...is sustainable? You sure? Grins May 2019 #50

When it does, it will stay hit hopefully, and we get the House and Senate. n/t brewens May 2019 #51

My question is... 7horses May 2019 #54

The leak of the Meuller letter was one hopeful sign Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #55

Totally Agree colsohlibgal May 2019 #56

I'm thinking a shitty summer ahead elfin May 2019 #57

I think the end needs.. stillcool May 2019 #58

Why? The criminality of the previous "R" presidency did not end Ferrets are Cool May 2019 #62

Well, his term will end at some point, and that will end it. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #66

yes. it only feels endless. barbtries May 2019 #67

The current Constitution is the reason we have less and less of a democracy as time goes on Maven May 2019 #69

please elaborate. barbtries May 2019 #70

Sure. Maven May 2019 #80

I think we're seeing it 'give' now. PatrickforO May 2019 #71

There is only one path forward ScratchCat May 2019 #78