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olegramps

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68. As I said both choices have consequences.

Sat May 11, 2019, 11:12 AM

May 2019

Is there an alternative that can achieve the same results. One would be to hold investigations into every aspect of this rogue presidency and pass effective legislation gained from these investigations to more effectively hold the president accountable. It appears that there are far to many loopholes and unspecified restraints on the powers of the president. Unfortunately, it seems that the founders of our nation didn't foresee the election of an unprincipled amoral person who could be an enemy of what they have sworn to uphold and protect. They were men of honor and their word was iron clad.

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The Rude Pundit: Practical Impeachment Politics: Your Objections Are Bullshit [View all] babylonsister May 2019 OP

Impeachment hearings are more than rallying the faithful, watoos May 2019 #1

But we have seen in plain daylight the obstructions, the corruption, etc. Democrats need to make Perseus May 2019 #9

You're preaching to the choir. watoos May 2019 #11

My major concern is how will it affect the election, either positively or negatively for Dems. olegramps May 2019 #20

Just as valid a concern angrychair May 2019 #30

The trend line is moving toward an invalid 2020 election. Eyeball_Kid May 2019 #32

I don't completely disagree angrychair May 2019 #37

Each states holds the election treestar May 2019 #53

It will take voting and then force, I don't see any other way. Brawndo May 2019 #69

As I said both choices have consequences. olegramps May 2019 #68

Do nothing? Traildogbob May 2019 #35

" he's just not worth it" , House Speaker Nancy Pelosi . stonecutter357 May 2019 #2

He's not, but the country is. warmfeet May 2019 #3

That was trolling him. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #18

I look at it as doing what is right vs. doing what is pragmatic anarch May 2019 #4

Well, that's not the point he was making, and your thinking doesn't hold up. pdsimdars May 2019 #7

don't get me wrong; I agree with the Rude One's perspective anarch May 2019 #25

Not impeaching Trump is like letting a bank robber keep the money. Botany May 2019 #5

Yes, let them put their names down in that vote as standing with the traitor. pdsimdars May 2019 #8

Trumpy's path to consolidating dictatorial powers is clear and convincing. Eyeball_Kid May 2019 #34

Dictators can run rings around a deliberative democratic republic. Eyeball_Kid May 2019 #36

He's not waiting for the "right time." Rambling Man May 2019 #66

This is a brilliant point, especially for rational minds. Apply the same rule pdsimdars May 2019 #6

This is unrelated but... Timmygoat May 2019 #10

The M$M is not our friend. watoos May 2019 #15

Great statement of where things stand, from The Rude One. Paladin May 2019 #12

Voting to Impeach Trump Is a Political Statement that the Democrats Have to Make panfluteman May 2019 #13

He still didn't explain how to get past a McConnell senate... lame54 May 2019 #14

His main point was that holding impeachment hearings watoos May 2019 #16

I know impeachment is the right thing to do but... lame54 May 2019 #19

The "loss" would come from Republicans in the Senate, watoos May 2019 #26

Good questions - no answers - just predictions and... lame54 May 2019 #49

No evidence to support your assertion Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #33

Actually - there is no evidence for either outcome except... lame54 May 2019 #50

"Almost no one talks about how this is a waste of time because it really isn't. FiveGoodMen May 2019 #59

There's the rub... lame54 May 2019 #60

We don't know the outcome, but... FiveGoodMen May 2019 #61

Can't believe someone alerted on a Rude Pundit post lillypaddle May 2019 #17

There are folks PufPuf23 May 2019 #22

Hey Nancy and (Democratic) Congress moonseller66 May 2019 #21

What did you expect them to do in 2016? MrsCoffee May 2019 #23

What did I expect them to do? moonseller66 May 2019 #28

Well, it's a good thing none of that happened then. TwilightZone May 2019 #62

None of what you propose Rambling Man May 2019 #65

here's the part that was snipped out... equally important... Javaman May 2019 #24

Timing. ginnyinWI May 2019 #27

Well, by then there'll be talk of Wednesdays May 2019 #38

I don't think we can wait 8 more months. babylonsister May 2019 #42

Depends on the courts, once they start fast tracking I think the attitude will change uponit7771 May 2019 #46

Why Not Just Impeach the Bastid Because He Broke the Law?? The_Counsel May 2019 #29

Fuckin' A!!! Rude Pundit puts a stake in the heart of cowardly defeatism! Nt Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #31

Your favorite reason for not impeaching tRump sucks Blue Owl May 2019 #39

Love His Rudeness! calimary May 2019 #40

Its way past time for the criminal GOP to get a good spankin. nt yaesu May 2019 #41

Impeachment is the strongest form of censure available. El Mimbreno May 2019 #43

Strawman argument. Most objections to opening an impeachment inquiry now have nothing to do StarfishSaver May 2019 #44

On here and other left politico boards the theme has changed but not with dem pols they continue uponit7771 May 2019 #48

This EffieBlack May 2019 #64

By that logic there is no point whatsoever in PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #45

The consequences of inaction are worse Rizen May 2019 #47

Great article...apparently we aren't the only ones reading DU today Docreed2003 May 2019 #51

Credit should always be given saidsimplesimon May 2019 #54

Did I say it wasn't my goal? Docreed2003 May 2019 #56

Docreed, do not be offended saidsimplesimon May 2019 #57

No worries, wasn't offended. Docreed2003 May 2019 #58

At least start the hearings treestar May 2019 #52

Impeach Nixon 43% ... Impeach Trump 45% uponit7771 May 2019 #70

Sad to say tiredtoo May 2019 #55

It's all about timing. MySideOfTown May 2019 #63

impeach the treasonous motherfucker already! Hermit-The-Prog May 2019 #67