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51. When did they do away with the Geneva Convention?

Reply to PatrickforO (Reply #35)

Sat May 11, 2019, 12:51 PM

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The tragic Non-decision made by Mueller reminds me of the movie Saving Private Ryan. [View all] shockey80 May 2019 OP

Mueller's a puke, nuff said Blues Heron May 2019 #1

That's bullshit. we can do it May 2019 #2

Really? Nuggets May 2019 #31

Wow Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2019 #7

On the other hand, zentrum May 2019 #24

True, and the Iraq War ended up getting Trump elected Dopers_Greed May 2019 #41

Yes, and that's zentrum May 2019 #76

Except Trump didn't get 'elected'. He was installed. triron May 2019 #82

wait, what? Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2019 #80

Even we ordinary zentrum May 2019 #99

I did not know that............ Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2019 #100

Trolls are prolific today😐 we can do it May 2019 #36

I don't see any trolls on this thread. Who are you referring to? nt SunSeeker May 2019 #61

JUST pazzyanne May 2019 #14

He bent over backwards for Trump, that's for sure. SunSeeker May 2019 #18

+1000% - n/t mazzarro May 2019 #52

No monetary value, huh? How about the millions in rubles paid for Facebook ads? hedda_foil May 2019 #57

Right? SunSeeker May 2019 #59

His task was to determine shanny May 2019 #75

I agree. cilla4progress May 2019 #102

I agree Catherine Vincent May 2019 #64

Until we get the unredacted report... essaynnc May 2019 #3

If that's the case, why is Mueller not speaking out? shockey80 May 2019 #6

What do you want him to do? Go on all the Sunday shows? rainin May 2019 #17

Mueller should have said in the report whether Trump committed obstruction. That was his job. SunSeeker May 2019 #20

Barr is the bad guy here. barbtries May 2019 #27

Of course Barr is. But Mueller opened the door for him by not doing his job. nt SunSeeker May 2019 #34

as i said below, barbtries May 2019 #38

+1, uponit7771 May 2019 #86

I think Mueller did make a decision. kentuck May 2019 #4

I am not saying he should have indicted Trump. shockey80 May 2019 #9

Exactly. How is it 800 prosecutors were able to come to a conclusion but he was not? SunSeeker May 2019 #23

Precisely. zentrum May 2019 #26

Because those FORMER prosectors don't work for DOJ, aren't bound by it's rules StarfishSaver May 2019 #79

There are no DOJ rules preventing him from rendering an opinion on whether Trump committed a crime. SunSeeker May 2019 #81

There are reasons an investigator doesn't render an opinion about guilt or innocence StarfishSaver May 2019 #83

Even Barr, his boss, said he should have rendered an opinion on obstruction, so why didn't he? SunSeeker May 2019 #85

Yes, Barr said that. And you fell for it? StarfishSaver May 2019 #87

I did not "fall for it." I am stating the rules correctly. SunSeeker May 2019 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author UniteFightBack May 2019 #91

Had he done so, H2O Man May 2019 #45

That should not be his concern but left to DOJ and Congress - n/t mazzarro May 2019 #56

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man May 2019 #72

That's exactly how I read it too. The_jackalope May 2019 #10

No, he should have said whether Trump committed a crime. That was Mueller's job. SunSeeker May 2019 #22

"He's guilty but there's nothing I can do about it"? kentuck May 2019 #55

"He decided that he did not have the authority to indict a president" mitch96 May 2019 #42

Correct. H2O Man May 2019 #43

The problem is the system did not work. shockey80 May 2019 #47

Yes and no. H2O Man May 2019 #74

+1 treestar May 2019 #78

Ethical people sometimes make wrong decisions Taraman May 2019 #5

Yep. Overthinking. KPN May 2019 #39

Mueller was supposed to be law enforcement, not a beancounter. Girard442 May 2019 #8

Exactly. shockey80 May 2019 #11

Remember this fact: The mueller report made conspiring with our enemies legal. shockey80 May 2019 #12

While I'm not sure I agree with the premise of your OP, that is the effect of his findings ... and KPN May 2019 #40

I wish Mueller had looked at the bigger ethical issues Taraman May 2019 #13

Yep. cilla4progress May 2019 #103

K & R SunSeeker May 2019 #15

Mr Mueller played buy the rules when he should god damn well know this is a time to bend them. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #16

You have no idea what he is doing right now, but Jerry Nadler does. pnwmom May 2019 #19

Thats my feeling Clarity2 May 2019 #32

I don't think the Saving Private Ryan analogy is a good one Jarqui May 2019 #21

i think the jury is still out on that. barbtries May 2019 #25

Mueller is a spineless republican worm. smirkymonkey May 2019 #28

WTF we can do it May 2019 #62

I'm sur this analogy sounded better in your head Tarc May 2019 #29

An excellent analogy. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. Nitram May 2019 #30

It's a poor analogy Kaleva May 2019 #53

Also, Hanks character was killed by machine gun fire from a tank. Blue_true May 2019 #84

I'm afraid war crimes are frequently committed to save lives when there is no way to safely Nitram May 2019 #94

The battle was over and no one's lives were in immediate risk. Kaleva May 2019 #97

Personally I think we're being goaded Nuggets May 2019 #33

Nowadays if you are behind the lines, you cannot take prisoners. PatrickforO May 2019 #35

When did they do away with the Geneva Convention? Kaleva May 2019 #51

If you are with a small group of soldiers on a mission, and you are behind enemy lines, PatrickforO May 2019 #66

That question does not apply to what the OP said Kaleva May 2019 #69

When I was in the army a Major gave us a class on the rules of war. shockey80 May 2019 #71

Another way to look at it. Kaleva May 2019 #73

It has been the same in every war, Patrick. But American WWII movies always portrayed a heroic Nitram May 2019 #95

What decision -- not indicting Trump for obstruction? Martin Eden May 2019 #37

That is a good comparison yaesu May 2019 #44

I have always believed that being a reThuglican mazzarro May 2019 #46

I must add this, Mueller was not alone in this tragic mistake. shockey80 May 2019 #48

Bringing the German back to base was not an option Kaleva May 2019 #49

I remember when people were up in arms because they were SO sure that Mueller had "cleared" Trump StarfishSaver May 2019 #50

This has not fully played out yet. MineralMan May 2019 #54

This is true, but how will Mueller fix the damage that has been done. shockey80 May 2019 #58

How could I possibly answer your questions? MineralMan May 2019 #60

I was not asking you to answer the questions. shockey80 May 2019 #67

We won't know until he speaks. MineralMan May 2019 #68

I agree. shockey80 May 2019 #70

Considering that the mission was a success, letting the German go was of no consequence. Kaleva May 2019 #63

I'm afraid you have a very idealistic and romantic notion of war. Nitram May 2019 #96

How so? Acceptable loses were incurred in completing the mission. Kaleva May 2019 #98

We have not read the unredacted report... pbmus May 2019 #65

He thinks it is not his place treestar May 2019 #77

He also didn't recommend Trump be indicted for state crimes, either StarfishSaver May 2019 #88

If Mueller wasn't sure they had a case, would you feel better if he said hughee99 May 2019 #89

NOT the important part of the post... albacore May 2019 #90

Steamboat Willie was the German who mortally wounded Capt. Miller Kaleva May 2019 #93

I cilla4progress May 2019 #101