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Tumbulu

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165. If the man causes an unwanted pregnancy

Mon May 13, 2019, 03:19 PM

May 2019

and the woman is unable to terminate it, then he should pay for pain suffering, loss of work time, risk of death, etc. He needs to pay his share of this result.

Have abortions being freely available allowed an entire generation of men to imagine that they bear no responsibility for outcomes of sex?

The women have to take the body debilitating birth control, or risk getting pregnant.

If you take away the option of aborting unwanted pregnancies, then men need to be obligated to participate in paying for the pain, suffering and risk of life that goes with pregnancy . Do you think that a woman on her own is supposed to bear all of these financial and risk of life costs on her own?

The woman will not be able to get out of it, why will the men be able to?

What is your answer to that?

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Mormon Mom of 6 Details the Reasons *Men* are Most Responsible for Unwanted Pregnancies [View all] CousinIT May 2019 OP

Uh that's unhinged Loki Liesmith May 2019 #1

No its not. It's the truth. gtar100 May 2019 #3

No it's load of crap . Her body her choice if she pregnant it's because chose to let a man into Fullduplexxx May 2019 #43

Julius Caesar intentionally knocked up the maiden Cleopatra erlewyne May 2019 #59

in rome if a man did not lift the child and say "behold my child" rampartc May 2019 #152

Yes, that is an ancient Roman spin. erlewyne May 2019 #157

She chose to let him in? In my experience, men are damn pushy about it and stronger than women. Shrike47 May 2019 #67

Well if you never enjoyed sex or never instigated it I can see how you would agree with this OP. I wasupaloopa May 2019 #124

I think you need to read the article a little more carefully. gtar100 May 2019 #81

I think you disrespect women. To you they are not even involved in the discussion. It is you and wasupaloopa May 2019 #125

Did you not bother to read the part about PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #108

Uh, it is a load of crap blue-wave May 2019 #99

This is not Misandry. gtar100 May 2019 #100

well said n/t orleans May 2019 #112

Yes PatSeg May 2019 #131

Perhaps a Little Cheese with that Whine... dlk May 2019 #102

Misandry is a steaming load of crap. I'm the fortunate child of fierce Wild West matriarchy. hunter May 2019 #178

well the part that men bear equal responsibility is truth qazplm135 May 2019 #105

EXACTLY!!!! SkyDaddy7 May 2019 #115

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Not a bit surprised this is the very first response kcr May 2019 #12

Posted 4 minutes after OP Cirque du So-What May 2019 #32

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It is the absolute truth! pazzyanne May 2019 #13

How so? Cal Carpenter May 2019 #14

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Not at all "unhinged". liberalmuse May 2019 #24

This is typical from this poster. smirkymonkey May 2019 #48

Looking at the history of posts and when joined relayerbob May 2019 #51

I don't agree with that poster, but it isn't cool to call another DUer a troll. cwydro May 2019 #164

In what way? mcar May 2019 #25

It's not even close to unhinged. It's the truth. amywalk May 2019 #29

That is 100% factual. onecaliberal May 2019 #72

SHOCKED this is the first comment obamanut2012 May 2019 #76

Child Strelnikov_ May 2019 #109

She uses a logically based argument to support her comments yourmovemonkey May 2019 #130

No, it is not, dream on if you think men will walk free if women are forced to give birth against Tumbulu May 2019 #166

Wow. tanyev May 2019 #2

And from a Mormon woman who is thinking with her head..... ProudMNDemocrat May 2019 #4

You Tell 'Em, Gabrielle! MineralMan May 2019 #5

Thank you. The World needs more guys like you! n/t CousinIT May 2019 #6

How we raise our boys PatSeg May 2019 #136

This is impressive and I hope one day Stargleamer May 2019 #7

Perhaps Joseph Smith and his teachings are the reason pazzyanne May 2019 #15

More than likely not FreeState May 2019 #110

Thanks for the information, FreeState! pazzyanne May 2019 #111

Also Eradicate the Forced Birth - Women are Utensils Culture. n/t MarcA May 2019 #9

I think the term is "vessels", not "utensils." And you're right. n/t Beartracks May 2019 #156

Love this! KT2000 May 2019 #10

Wow. shanny May 2019 #11

Great Post. delisen May 2019 #16

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Love this. K&R n/t ms liberty May 2019 #20

You go Girl! Wellstone ruled May 2019 #21

Profit shanti May 2019 #46

You caught that. Wellstone ruled May 2019 #55

Why any woman would go along with that is beyond me. flying_wahini May 2019 #60

There are more of these Wellstone ruled May 2019 #62

As long as they are old enough to marry keithbvadu2 May 2019 #101

Was dude a polygamist? shanti May 2019 #89

His Grand father was a Plig. Wellstone ruled May 2019 #92

The judge actually said he didn't have to pay child support? StevieM May 2019 #133

Yes sir re. Wellstone ruled May 2019 #147

A big, fat K&R! CaliforniaPeggy May 2019 #22

K and R Mosby May 2019 #23

This needs to be spread far and wide! mcar May 2019 #26

I have always known anti-women activists don't care about abortions - they want CONTROL Moostache May 2019 #27

You're a great dad! CousinIT May 2019 #34

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey May 2019 #50

BRILLIANT! NotHardly May 2019 #58

If we men think enough of a woman to want to have sex justhanginon May 2019 #28

Truth relayerbob May 2019 #30

She's absolutely right. K&R. nt ginnyinWI May 2019 #31

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She is 100% correct bluescribbler May 2019 #35

Rarely do I read posts this long leftieNanner May 2019 #36

"A man should have a say." Mariana May 2019 #75

Exactly! leftieNanner May 2019 #79

ACCOUNTABILITY. Guilded Lilly May 2019 #37

aaaamen! samnsara May 2019 #38

Brutally honest. krispos42 May 2019 #39

K&R! Control-Z May 2019 #40

Wow. Say it, sister! Silver Gaia May 2019 #41

Brilliant! Tech May 2019 #42

I second the above comment Ohiogal May 2019 #44

Fantastic!! Highly recommend!! bobbieinok May 2019 #45

This should be spread far and wide! shanti May 2019 #47

Well thought out & makes perfect sense. nt yaesu May 2019 #49

I love this woman's ideas! fierywoman May 2019 #52

There are women who hate condoms or have allergic reactions IronLionZion May 2019 #53

I wish they would make them affordable. Quackers May 2019 #70

That's insane! Ohiogal May 2019 #77

It's considered an elective procedure and not medically necessary. Quackers May 2019 #78

$20 says they cover Viagra though. meadowlander May 2019 #96

That not only is insane, PatSeg May 2019 #139

Have you checked your local planned parenthood? IronLionZion May 2019 #85

Oh, wow. trev May 2019 #86

Mil hospital did mine too. keithbvadu2 May 2019 #104

All of the reasons why my dad told me I was responsible Lithos May 2019 #54

Thank you homegirl May 2019 #56

Fantastic! Leith May 2019 #57

This needs to be read on the floor of Congress. forgotmylogin May 2019 #61

So if two people have heterosexual sex only the man is responsible if there is a pregnancy? wasupaloopa May 2019 #68

He needs to pay for the pain and suffering and risk of life this his Tumbulu May 2019 #80

"Bullshit on this old line that getting pregnant is somehow the woman's fault." Doodley May 2019 #83

If she wanted and had six kids, her choice. haele May 2019 #93

No, I'm saying the man should pay for the pain and suffering and risk of life that he caused Tumbulu May 2019 #137

So having sex should be a financial arrangement? Doodley May 2019 #163

If the man causes an unwanted pregnancy Tumbulu May 2019 #165

So, a pre-sex financial agreement, that states that if the Doodley May 2019 #167

No, it it common law that anyone causing someone bodily harm Tumbulu May 2019 #179

sorry that is so much bull shit. Two people have sex two people are responsible. wasupaloopa May 2019 #119

But the woman is the only one being forced to go through a pregnancy Tumbulu May 2019 #138

I don't believe you got the point of the essay. forgotmylogin May 2019 #94

Why do I have to get the point of the essay? I don't think it is valid. wasupaloopa May 2019 #120

You said "two people have sex two people are responsible" forgotmylogin May 2019 #132

Yes, yes and yes! nt Heartstrings May 2019 #63

Thank you for sharing this subject matter from your perspectives.... magicarpet May 2019 #65

I fully expect to get flamed, but this is why a lot of people have negative perceptions of feminism. tarheelsunc May 2019 #66

Exactly, and you shouldn't get flamed for stating basic facts. Doodley May 2019 #84

The most basic fact is that men don't get pregnant. hunter May 2019 #172

Are you saying a woman isn't ever responsible for agreeing to let a man's penis enter her? Doodley May 2019 #173

Congratulations on missing the point entirely. hunter May 2019 #174

You wrote: "The both sides argument is bullshit," implying the woman isn't Doodley May 2019 #175

Biological fact: Men don't get pregnant. hunter May 2019 #176

Couldn't Agree More RobinA May 2019 #116

"Ever heard of pre-ejaculate?" bloom May 2019 #126

If they remove the right to remedy an unwanted pregnacy Tumbulu May 2019 #140

Not sure what planet you're from, but on Earth, ONLY women are held 100% responsible CousinIT May 2019 #144

Excellent post! LuvNewcastle May 2019 #69

Reads like an over-generalization of men. Doodley May 2019 #82

Her best point is that unwanted pregnancies should cost men dearly, and I'm not talking money. Shrike47 May 2019 #71

Oh, I see. GaYellowDawg May 2019 #103

The first idea is bull shit then they top it off with castration. It is a sick combination. wasupaloopa May 2019 #122

It sounds like you need to stay away from sex yourself Tumbulu May 2019 #142

Plus a gazillion! love_katz May 2019 #151

Did I say that? Men and women are responsible wasupaloopa May 2019 #154

Yes, but only the women will be forced to produce a baby unpaid and unsupported. Tumbulu May 2019 #158

I do not support what you've said. GaYellowDawg May 2019 #160

Great column! burrowowl May 2019 #73

It's so ridiculously simple! procon May 2019 #74

Unwanted pregnancies are caused by men and their irresponsible ejaculation. We need to keep saying UniteFightBack May 2019 #87

Unless it is rape that idea is bull shit! Women want sex too. It takes both sperm and egg for a wasupaloopa May 2019 #121

+1 n/t CousinIT May 2019 #145

I just hope that in my lifetime this will be read on the house flooor and bonniebgood May 2019 #88

Great post! cp May 2019 #90

Cynic says... moondust May 2019 #91

K & R, Tweeted, & FB Like. N/T Lady Freedom Returns May 2019 #95

K & R & Retweeted & Bookmarked! SunSeeker May 2019 #97

Men take responsibility, vasectomy. SMoss May 2019 #98

Years ago, PatSeg May 2019 #143

Great post k&r lordsummerisle May 2019 #106

If men could get pregnant keithbvadu2 May 2019 #107

thank you for posting this orleans May 2019 #113

Excellent post. Thanks for the detailed unrolled thread. iluvtennis May 2019 #114

How can this get into a mainstream media angstlessk May 2019 #117

The poster who calls this "unhinged" BlueMTexpat May 2019 #118

If you are a woman who thinks this way, why not just masturbate if you get horny? Why would you wasupaloopa May 2019 #123

Why do men currently bear no responsibility? Think about that? Tumbulu May 2019 #141

Who in the hell said men don't bare any responsibility? wasupaloopa May 2019 #155

What planet are you living on? Tumbulu May 2019 #159

If only there was something that could be done..... the_sly_pig May 2019 #129

Women can stop having sex with men, and elect more women to public office & more women can run. CousinIT May 2019 #146

Exactly, CousinIt. love_katz May 2019 #153

Exactly. the_sly_pig May 2019 #162

That's alot of words fescuerescue May 2019 #134

She's factually wrong about at least one thing fescuerescue May 2019 #135

You are right. She doesn't even understand the basics. Doodley May 2019 #169

Men cause pregnancies bigbadR May 2019 #148

+1 n/t CousinIT May 2019 #150

Do you assume that "every heterosexual woman, married or not" would be happy without Doodley May 2019 #168

How does this work exactly? cwydro May 2019 #170

Huge kick and rec. love_katz May 2019 #149

Thank you so much for this amazing piece! scarletwoman May 2019 #161

"Their own goddamned junk" Rather an offensive description. Can the OP at least appear to show Doodley May 2019 #171

lol Alea May 2019 #177

Bookmarked. PatrickforO May 2019 #180