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Laura PourMeADrink

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277. Thanks for telling me how I feel!!! Never knew how I felt

Fri May 17, 2019, 12:03 PM

May 2019

so nice.

I care about one thing only. Holding MF45 to justice. The proof was handed to the House on a silver platter. And, it seems like to many of us who feel that way that there is only one decider...who happens to be Nancy Pelosi. Could have been anyone leading House. We who care about holding him accountable (10+ million who signed move on petition, btw) look for any hint, any sign that this will actually happen. The window is closing and tomorrow marks a month since the proof came out !!

On Wednesday, the speaker told the caucus to focus on legislation and NOT impeachment. Posted WaPo link Unless this is somehow a sub rosa plot to trick everyone into thinking we will not impeach. Unless Nadler and Schiff are in on it too...it is a sign, a very strong sign that impeachment is not imminent. If you have proof otherwise, then I would welcome it with open arms!!!

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When will these arrogant men realize Speaker Pelosi is playing Rope-a-Dope with them like a master? [View all] StarfishSaver May 2019 OP

Agree Nancy has the big plan. mainstreetonce May 2019 #1

When are folks DownriverDem May 2019 #254

If she's thinking the same way I am... backscatter712 May 2019 #299

Pelosi and Her Team are Masterful, as Republicans Will Soon Learn dlk May 2019 #2

dont mess with Nancy! samnsara May 2019 #3

rump is going to grab impeachment by the pussy and he's going to think he's getting away with it. UniteFightBack May 2019 #4

LOL StarfishSaver May 2019 #5

Mental Picture Of The Day - Thank You! (n/t) corbettkroehler May 2019 #239

yes and no. mopinko May 2019 #6

yes and no... Raster May 2019 #14

Explain how starting impeachment Nuggets May 2019 #26

Impeachment will open the magical door into a room full of gold StarfishSaver May 2019 #30

Btw. Welcome to DU !! Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #243

... Raster May 2019 #32

Get real! Nuggets May 2019 #34

any judge that would split that hair mopinko May 2019 #44

The requests for information would still end up in court mcar May 2019 #99

Yes, the probably would still end up in court... Raster May 2019 #105

I don't trust this Supreme Court mcar May 2019 #110

If you listen to/read the legal experts who say impeachment could impact court action StarfishSaver May 2019 #117

Can you provide some examples of this "prevailing legal opinion" you say exists? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #183

Perfectly explained StarfishSaver May 2019 #18

To be fair, The Mueller Report is a best seller. gldstwmn May 2019 #63

Sure StarfishSaver May 2019 #67

Over 40 years of working with arrogant men I have found they really are dense. redstatebluegirl May 2019 #7

Agree!! Thx for sharing Thekaspervote May 2019 #8

I totally disagree with the entire thread. watoos May 2019 #9

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2019 #11

+1mil JackInGreen May 2019 #12

she has no intention zipplewrath May 2019 #16

You read minds now? ehrnst May 2019 #19

She's virtually stated as such zipplewrath May 2019 #72

What she's "literally" stated.: ehrnst May 2019 #82

That time zipplewrath May 2019 #86

And the situation changes daily doesn't it? ehrnst May 2019 #143

No zipplewrath May 2019 #195

No, Trump wasn't impeachable at any point that the GOP had congress... ehrnst May 2019 #208

Huh? zipplewrath May 2019 #211

Huh? ehrnst May 2019 #250

if impeachment was off the table for starting a war based on lies Skittles May 2019 #141

So you think that she's lying when she says impeachment isn't off the table for DT? ehrnst May 2019 #175

we are WAY past already "there" Skittles May 2019 #188

Past what? ehrnst May 2019 #210

I hope that isn't true, watoos May 2019 #20

If they're only looking at impeachment politically and they aren't holding their oath of office tymorial May 2019 #252

They're not EffieBlack May 2019 #253

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2019 #21

+1, they don't understand the level of threat of Russian hacking or whistling past the grave yard uponit7771 May 2019 #52

Who's "they"? The House Democrats? StarfishSaver May 2019 #54

What if you are dead wrong about Pelosi? ehrnst May 2019 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author uponit7771 May 2019 #51

You have no idea that she's ignoring anything StarfishSaver May 2019 #61

Links to support this contention? mcar May 2019 #114

So you're accusing Pelosi of being a traitor as well, now? ehrnst May 2019 #123

What's magical about September? StarfishSaver May 2019 #17

I'm with you on impeachment RVN VET71 May 2019 #37

Why do we have only until September? boston bean May 2019 #38

because then the hue and cry will be against any actions in an "election year" Grasswire2 May 2019 #129

Oh so political considerations start in September only? boston bean May 2019 #165

The heat increases then. Grasswire2 May 2019 #193

K&R, except that "we win" 2020 elections ... will NOT be more free and fair than 2016 uponit7771 May 2019 #50

So, you would just cut the Gordian Knot? WhiteTara May 2019 #56

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU StarfishSaver May 2019 #60

+1000000 brer cat May 2019 #238

ahhh WhiteTara May 2019 #242

agree with you watoos Grasswire2 May 2019 #84

amen UT_democrat May 2019 #186

+1. If junior testifies it's because Daddy said he Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #244

There's playing Rope-a-Dope... Dave Starsky May 2019 #10

One of the key elements of Rope-a-Dope StarfishSaver May 2019 #15

Rope-a-Dope implies that you have a strategy. Dave Starsky May 2019 #25

Or StarfishSaver May 2019 #28

Ha ha. The Republicans AREN'T exhausting. Dave Starsky May 2019 #49

Yes, like overtunruning Roe v. Wade and gldstwmn May 2019 #73

So you blame Democratic leaders for 'causing' what the GOP is doing? ehrnst May 2019 #94

So you don't think that our Democratic leaders have a strategy? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #93

I didn't say that they don't. Dave Starsky May 2019 #245

So you have your doubts. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #246

Sometimes the wisest strategy is not to advertise one's strategy. ehrnst May 2019 #275

Duh EffieBlack May 2019 #279

.... ehrnst May 2019 #280

Great point StarfishSaver May 2019 #281

hopefully never, or not until it's too late Maine-i-acs May 2019 #13

Give me a fucking break. This is nonsense. manor321 May 2019 #22

I guess you would know StarfishSaver May 2019 #24

One thing that I have observed sweetapogee May 2019 #27

Are you saying that she lied when she stated that she would impeach with ehrnst May 2019 #68

Using the words "arrogant men" is pretty darn divisive isn't it? watoos May 2019 #23

Re-read my OP StarfishSaver May 2019 #29

I apologize. watoos May 2019 #33

Thanks. StarfishSaver May 2019 #47

Nah, Don't Apologize. What's Sauce for the Goose is Sauce for the Gander. jayfish May 2019 #79

Arrogant men impose laws forcing women to give birth with no male responsibility . we can do it May 2019 #104

Uhhh huh. jayfish May 2019 #106

She's the governor. She didn't make the law, the men in the legislature did. Demit May 2019 #191

WHAT! jayfish May 2019 #200

End of Day? Yes, I guess it is, it's almost 4pm here. Demit May 2019 #218

of course getting rid of trump is our first priority not_the_one May 2019 #31

I want to get the entire Mueller report watoos May 2019 #35

+1 This Brawndo May 2019 #90

She was being bashed all over here yesterday for not reacting to Barr's "handcuffs" comment.... George II May 2019 #36

+1000. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #39

This is fantasy, and dangerous. coti May 2019 #40

"Stop self-soothing with unreality and start standing up for our democracy" Maven May 2019 #45

I'll ask you the same question StarfishSaver May 2019 #55

This is a discussion board Maven May 2019 #81

So you agree that Starfishsaver has just as much a right to discuss as you. ehrnst May 2019 #92

When did I say that Starfishsaver has no right to discuss? Maven May 2019 #101

Strawman... ehrnst May 2019 #107

Please. The implication of your statement was clear. Maven May 2019 #116

I just don't defend the straw men you keep producing. ehrnst May 2019 #122

Exactly! Nevermypresident May 2019 #224

In what way is Dem leadership "refusing to stand up for democracy" ehrnst May 2019 #74

My qualifications? Maven May 2019 #96

I didn't say that you couldn't comment. ehrnst May 2019 #100

So you always defer to those with more experience? Maven May 2019 #113

Not just more experience - a good track record and continued confidence ehrnst May 2019 #119

You should reevaluate your use of "straw men" because it does not mean what you think it does. Maven May 2019 #130

Yeah, when you said "We're done here" I knew you weren't... ehrnst May 2019 #135

Oh, we are done having a substantive discussion. Maven May 2019 #137

"We're done here" yet again? ehrnst May 2019 #148

LOL! Maven May 2019 #151

"I know you are but what am I?" ehrnst May 2019 #155

I think it's time for Starfish Saver to present qualifications. Grasswire2 May 2019 #115

Careful... asking for qualifications is a "cheap tactic to delegitimize someone else's opinion ehrnst May 2019 #126

See above. Grasswire2 May 2019 #133

Demeaning? By not agreeing with people? ehrnst May 2019 #145

Phooey. Grasswire2 May 2019 #152

I think that people are a bit sensitive. ehrnst May 2019 #158

come back when you're feeling better, then. nt Grasswire2 May 2019 #160

"I know you are but what am I?" ehrnst May 2019 #162

Not When the Person Being Asked... jayfish May 2019 #134

Who is "using them as a cudgel?" (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #146

You're not arguing very honestly, here. nt coti May 2019 #170

I guess that's one way to avoid admitting you can't answer the question. ehrnst May 2019 #173

Do you even realize you're talking to two different people? nt coti May 2019 #177

You replied to me, and you didn't answer the question that I had asked of the other poster. ehrnst May 2019 #180

"Stop self-soothing with unreality and start standing up for our democracy." StarfishSaver May 2019 #53

What exactly is Pelosi "fucking up?" ehrnst May 2019 #70

Yeah, I've always been flabbergasted that Hortensis May 2019 #80

LOL, great analogies. Also, those people sailing boats who do that silly thing called "tacking"! Demit May 2019 #226

Oh, very good example! Attention-seeking Hortensis May 2019 #229

+1000 CaptainTruth May 2019 #41

Wish I could rec a reply wryter2000 May 2019 #65

+1000. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #149

Hear, hear. Demit May 2019 #194

How'd the game of rope-a-dope go after GWB lied us into a war? Maven May 2019 #42

Impeachment hasn't been taken off the table. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #97

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #43

I think the first week of July would be perfect to open an impeachment inquiry Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #46

Given how many times I've heard variations on this story, on so many subjects mr_lebowski May 2019 #48

Agree. Also, I don't have blind faith in anyone. Nevermypresident May 2019 #62

Acknowledging when someone has far greater experience and expertise than you do ehrnst May 2019 #66

Yes. StarfishSaver May 2019 #78

Anyone can make mistakes, even those with experience and expertise. So, again I don't have blind Nevermypresident May 2019 #223

Attack those straw men... ehrnst May 2019 #249

+1, trust but verify uponit7771 May 2019 #71

What do you mean, "verify?" ehrnst May 2019 #109

No, verify she's wearing pink shoes on Tuesday :rolleyes: uponit7771 May 2019 #153

Not going to answer? ehrnst May 2019 #156

Also my first thought- Claiming "Rope-A-Dope/11-Dimensional Chess" shows lack of experience, to not coti May 2019 #64

I am quite confident I have more experience at this than you do StarfishSaver May 2019 #75

we have little data to show how you roll...less than a month here. Grasswire2 May 2019 #88

Fronting and misplaced "confidence" is yet another sign of inexperience. coti May 2019 #102

Because you say so? ehrnst May 2019 #121

Uh, no, I'm not the one claiming some kind of holy authority here. coti May 2019 #125

What you're actually doing is relating your opinion. ehrnst May 2019 #128

No, I made a claim of empirical fact, that almost all of the hundreds of times we've seen coti May 2019 #132

But you can't seem to provide any examples of this. ehrnst May 2019 #159

I already said you can disagree with my factual assessment if you like. Do you? coti May 2019 #163

So you can't provide any factual examples to back up your opinion. ehrnst May 2019 #167

So you don't actually disagree. Why didn't you just say so? coti May 2019 #169

No, I didn't say I agreed. I asked for examples, and you haven't been able to ehrnst May 2019 #171

I didn't say you agreed, either, just that you didn't disagree. Works for me. coti May 2019 #176

Straw man. But I guess that's easier that actually backing up your ehrnst May 2019 #178

Straw man- coti May 2019 #184

And you still have nothing to back up your claim... only evasions like ehrnst May 2019 #187

You've said nothing substantive at all for 50+ posts. You are the epitome of the pointless arguer. coti May 2019 #189

If it was "pointless anger" it sure kept you coming back for more, didn't it? ehrnst May 2019 #209

What is your specific experience that entitles you to overrule others' opinions? Maven May 2019 #120

Careful about "asking for qualifications" ehrnst May 2019 #131

Excuse me? I'm not the one who put up my "life and career" and greater "experience" Maven May 2019 #136

So you didn't say that about asking for qualifications? ehrnst May 2019 #138

I quoted the person I was responding to. Maven May 2019 #139

The person you responded to when you said that was me... ehrnst May 2019 #144

WTF are you even talking about? Maven May 2019 #147

Oh, the person you were trashing as not having valid POV because they ehrnst May 2019 #154

You won't find one without the other Rambling Man May 2019 #228

"the go-to for those trying to blow smoke up their own ass." ehrnst May 2019 #77

heh nt Grasswire2 May 2019 #89

K&R wryter2000 May 2019 #57

This is exactly what I've been saying. patphil May 2019 #58

+1 oasis May 2019 #112

Pelosi is wrong not to move strongly into impeachment ASAP PufPuf23 May 2019 #69

I agree with your assessment Generic Other May 2019 #76

What makes you say that Democrats aren't "mounting a defense?" (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #85

The open taunting by Barr of Pelosi Generic Other May 2019 #91

yes and don't apologize Grasswire2 May 2019 #118

So the GOP "mocking" Pelosi means that we are "neutralized." ehrnst May 2019 #265

"A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons." StarfishSaver May 2019 #140

Pelosi lost 68 seats in the House then. Grasswire2 May 2019 #103

Reasonable plan of action if you ask me Generic Other May 2019 #111

Was she chair of the DCCC then? I missed that. ehrnst May 2019 #166

How did this work out for the party? Grasswire2 May 2019 #196

So you're going to ignore Pelosi's actions in 2018 and 2019 to ehrnst May 2019 #207

ridiculous Grasswire2 May 2019 #215

And so was Paul Wellstone.... Grasswire2 May 2019 #217

Paul Wellstone was called an "establishment sellout" before he died by the . ehrnst May 2019 #221

Wellstone was WORSHIPPED on this board, I was there. nt coti May 2019 #225

I'm talking about other self-identifying "progressives." ehrnst May 2019 #258

You are evading giving her credit for the 2018 Blue Wave ehrnst May 2019 #219

2018 and 2019 are even more recent prologue... ehrnst May 2019 #247

No different than those who claim Dems have been failures EffieBlack May 2019 #237

its not off the table.. and if we move forward now..and lose..what recourse do we have? samnsara May 2019 #150

the window is closing daily Grasswire2 May 2019 #157

Pelosi was chosen by her peers to do her job. ehrnst May 2019 #164

Hope you're right matt819 May 2019 #83

Not sure what Pelosi had to do with the Mueller report. ehrnst May 2019 #95

As long as they don't invade Poland we'll be fine BeyondGeography May 2019 #87

Nailed it nt coti May 2019 #108

+1939 Maven May 2019 #124

Well said mcar May 2019 #98

From possible impeachment to enabling Fullduplexxx May 2019 #127

Who is enabling what? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #182

Well, considering how stupid they are... WinstonSmith4740 May 2019 #142

she never impeached bush for fake war. just saying Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #161

And? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #168

Ergo, clue that it might not happen in the future? Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #172

Why? Different POTUS, different situation from decades ago. ehrnst May 2019 #174

Maybe just to appease those who are calling for Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #201

So you think she's lying? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #206

No she avoids it by saying never off the table but in reality Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #220

Isn't that the defintion of lying? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #222

Why don't you tell me why you think she has impeachment Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #227

Her own words ehrnst May 2019 #251

Wednesday Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #255

So no, you don't have any evidence that she has taken impeachment off the table. ehrnst May 2019 #256

To you only. Follow #impeach #impeachnow and #resist Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #260

Still got nothing? You think she said something that she didn't ehrnst May 2019 #261

Thanks for telling me how I feel!!! Never knew how I felt Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #277

Let's unpack this. ehrnst May 2019 #278

Good for you. Can't wait until he's held accountable!!! Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #295

So, like I asked the RWers who said the very same about Obama "not being held accountable" ehrnst May 2019 #296

What do you think Obama did to be "held accountable" for? Crunchy Frog May 2019 #303

Why are you asking me this? ehrnst May 2019 #304

No answer? ehrnst May 2019 #305

Dubya was president "decades" ago, huh? Rambling Man May 2019 #262

2006 was over a decade ago. ehrnst May 2019 #263

2006 was not decades ago Rambling Man May 2019 #264

And yet another relevant rebuttal. ehrnst May 2019 #266

catch any sealions with that hook? are you admitting to "trolling?" Rambling Man May 2019 #269

Project much, dear? ehrnst May 2019 #270

oooh . . . "that's what you are, what am I?" Rambling Man May 2019 #271

After you, dear. ehrnst May 2019 #272

You're dealing with the deliberately obtuse, LPMAD nt coti May 2019 #179

Is that Glass House comfortable? ehrnst May 2019 #181

It's called Sea-lioning. SixString May 2019 #192

+1 Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #202

It's very easy to tell when someone is acting in bad faith Rambling Man May 2019 #267

Indeed. ehrnst May 2019 #276

+1 Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #203

What does one call constantly coming back to reply? ehrnst May 2019 #212

Discussing? zipplewrath May 2019 #213

But I was referred to as a troll. Didn't you read the post I was responding to? ehrnst May 2019 #216

Patient? zipplewrath May 2019 #230

Humiliated? ehrnst May 2019 #248

point of order: No war is fake if people are dying. Grasswire2 May 2019 #198

I'll be holding my breath. UT_democrat May 2019 #185

I lulz'd KG May 2019 #190

The blind faith of the Dem Leadership by some of the members here is remarkable. briv1016 May 2019 #197

Lucy. Charlie Brown. Football. nt Grasswire2 May 2019 #199

What's remarkable is how the strawman being pushed that acknowledging that Speaker Pelosi ehrnst May 2019 #282

There is no real plan except to hope enough voters turn out to reverse this nightmare Freethinker65 May 2019 #204

Your know there's no plan? StarfishSaver May 2019 #231

Are you a mind reader? Or do you just assume that Speaker Pelosi ehrnst May 2019 #284

Never said she was incompetent. My opinion that there is NO plan is as valid as the OPs Freethinker65 May 2019 #288

Actually, you said she had NO plan ehrnst May 2019 #290

Provoke. Dare. Freethinker65 May 2019 #291

Really? You think that's what the House Speaker is supposed to do? Dare him? ehrnst May 2019 #292

Nope. The Speaker is not omnipotent. Freethinker65 May 2019 #293

I can see what you wrote in your posts. ehrnst May 2019 #297

As I can see what you write in your posts, to myself and others, that have opinions that differ Freethinker65 May 2019 #298

More than I can talk about on DU. ehrnst May 2019 #300

Just like Mueller played rope-a-dope for two and a half years. egduj May 2019 #205

In what way did Mueller "play rope-a-dope?" ehrnst May 2019 #214

If he meant for us to impeach with his findings Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #233

I can't help but notice EffieBlack May 2019 #232

I agree, StarfishSaver. Nitram May 2019 #234

Pretty much never, because she's not. Captain Stern May 2019 #235

Rope-a-dope took an incredible physical toll on Ali. BlueWI May 2019 #236

Keep the hope alive, but I will believe it when I see it Perseus May 2019 #240

ANSWER: When DFT is taken away in chains RainCaster May 2019 #241

I'm not so sure. Mike Niendorff May 2019 #257

I have no doubt the Speaker of the House has a plan StarfishSaver May 2019 #259

I don't think that she's been reelected by her peers so many times because she's ehrnst May 2019 #268

Like little kids who close their eyes and think you can't see them EffieBlack May 2019 #273

Perhaps if one has a plan, one is wise not to broadcast it. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #274

I hope to hell you're right. Paladin May 2019 #283

What do you think would be happening in an impeachment inquiry StarfishSaver May 2019 #285

Before Nixon's hearings started, 30% of the public favored impeachment. Paladin May 2019 #287

Not quite StarfishSaver May 2019 #294

When will Pelosi (and the rest of the Dems) azureblue May 2019 #286

I'm quite sure that Pelosi fully realizes everything she needs to realize StarfishSaver May 2019 #289

That is a very sanguine... Snackshack May 2019 #301

Pelosi and the Democrats ARE taking action StarfishSaver May 2019 #302

Kick because Speaker Pelosi proved my point again today StarfishSaver May 2019 #306

Kicking! EffieBlack May 2019 #307

Kick ... StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #308