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Drale

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30. I completely agree

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 01:50 PM

Aug 2012

I was bullied for years and years but I never wanted to shot any of those people. It did end when I finally snapped after a particularly bad day all around and I broke one kids arm and gave the other one a large bruise on the side of his face. That was a momentary snap, shooting a bully is something that is planned. I can completely understand fighting back with fists or anything you have at hand but to plan a shooting is wholly criminal and shows how weak a person you really are. You have to live with the knowledge that those bullies probably already and will continue to have a shitty life. Those 2 kids that I snapped on, one of them was killed in a bar room fight, that from all reports he started and the other is in prison for 20 years for kidnapping and attempted murder, while I'm currently in college getting my BA in History, have an awesome girlfriend and an awesome family.

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Another school shooting. Another bully shot. Another victim in police custody. [View all] Stinky The Clown Aug 2012 OP

Our system is designed to protect bullies. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #1

Your post makes my point. Stinky The Clown Aug 2012 #2

That was what I intended. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #4

"It gets better" is not only a cold comfort... it is wrong, too. Zalatix Aug 2012 #7

True. The bullies just get more subtle. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #8

Completely true BuelahWitch Aug 2012 #27

The "quiet loner" is turning into a friggin trope. Zalatix Aug 2012 #111

you seem to be saying, in your exerpt, that those killed cali Aug 2012 #5

You're damn right. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #10

sickening and sick. cali Aug 2012 #21

Even worse than bullies Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #24

murderers are worse than bullies. cali Aug 2012 #29

No, trying to wedge an idea into a closed mind rarely does. renie408 Aug 2012 #45

+1 nt Javaman Aug 2012 #52

renie408 is right +1 Katashi_itto Aug 2012 #58

Thank you Stinky The Clown Aug 2012 #68

Yes. I know that murder is more final than bullying. cali Aug 2012 #93

Terrible. I'm sorry this happened to you. ='( AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #113

Bummer renie408 Aug 2012 #118

I'm so sorry that happened to you cali Aug 2012 #119

There is no 'real or fake' victim. Get it together. Both parties were victims. vaberella Aug 2012 #101

this is idiotic jumping to conclusions. cali Aug 2012 #106

Non-sense. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #31

???? What?! AlinPA Aug 2012 #37

I can't ever agree with that... Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #51

Wow. How ignorant. Dash87 Aug 2012 #56

"Wow. How ignorant." radicalliberal Sep 2013 #126

Thread Zombie Attack! Dash87 Sep 2013 #127

Idiot. Most of the victims at Columbine didn't even know the shooters. Xithras Aug 2012 #89

thanks...said it better than i did Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #99

^^^^ ellisonz Aug 2012 #103

I think you are misinterpeting things Stinky The Clown Aug 2012 #11

I completely agree Drale Aug 2012 #30

I'm sorry you were bullied cali Aug 2012 #94

While I don't approve of shooting anyone, the tormentors of the Columbine shooters Flatulo Aug 2012 #59

I could suggest a solution but it would get me flamed. zeemike Aug 2012 #69

I hear ya - back in the day it was common for gym teachers Flatulo Aug 2012 #90

I saw the same damn thing. zeemike Aug 2012 #100

I was in the seventh grade in 1966. There was this big dumb fuck of a gym teacher Flatulo Aug 2012 #110

Thats a stereotype Drale Aug 2012 #95

Well that is a stereotype too...that bullies are just "bad" kids. zeemike Aug 2012 #97

Are you saying school bullies are never found in sports? radicalliberal Sep 2012 #125

could you post links to that? cali Aug 2012 #96

Wikipedia has both accounts - that they were bullied, and in turn bullied others Flatulo Aug 2012 #105

I understand what you are saying get the red out Aug 2012 #9

FWIW, I would bet anything that bullying predates the invention of the gun by millennia. Stinky The Clown Aug 2012 #13

The gun actually ends things a lot quicker in these cases. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #17

I agree get the red out Aug 2012 #26

The bully theory for Columbine has been largely discredited. wickerwoman Aug 2012 #43

Bullying is the common thread in most school shootings. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #44

IMO Mr Dixon Aug 2012 #3

Which is also why so many school shooters don't survive the attack. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #6

Many of us were punished for defending ourselves against the bullies Odin2005 Aug 2012 #12

+1000000 Jamastiene Aug 2012 #19

You get the feeling a lot of schools out there are like "The Lord of the Flies" reformist2 Aug 2012 #14

Or hey, maybe kids in homes are w/o adult supervision? MichiganVote Aug 2012 #16

Or nineteen50 Aug 2012 #76

Wasn't that book inspired by British elite boarding schools? Odin2005 Aug 2012 #20

Bingo. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #22

I thought it was based upon the Prussian (German) school system. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #25

Which is also where the British system came from. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #28

THANK YOU Teachers for putting your lives on the line today MichiganVote Aug 2012 #15

+10000000!!!! shireen Aug 2012 #49

+ a million Bertha Venation Aug 2012 #72

I see a few posters up on the wall liberal_at_heart Aug 2012 #18

premeditated attempted murder is not bullying? nt msongs Aug 2012 #23

No, it's retaliation. ...nt TeeYiYi Aug 2012 #32

Not with escalating personal violence on the other side Mopar151 Aug 2012 #34

It's not exactly civilised but it isn't the same thing. sibelian Aug 2012 #42

We must not talk about easy access to guns as a social factor. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #33

Guns aren't the issue here. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #35

But he didn't... ellisonz Aug 2012 #38

No, your trying to make it a "gun issue" ignores the real problem. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #41

Your agenda is showing... ellisonz Aug 2012 #54

My "agenda" Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #98

By misrepresenting the Columbine shooting? ellisonz Aug 2012 #104

I misrepresent nothing. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #108

I would have been alright if he used a baseball bat former-republican Aug 2012 #47

Like it or not, that train has left the station Mopar151 Aug 2012 #36

And we can derail it... ellisonz Aug 2012 #39

Social responsibilities is how the hillbillies make it work Mopar151 Aug 2012 #107

The issue is high school sucks for a lot of people. Jennicut Aug 2012 #40

No sympathy for bullies former-republican Aug 2012 #46

In high school, I was bullied so badly that I dropped out. Akoto Aug 2012 #48

I dropped out, too. renie408 Aug 2012 #53

So true... Bullying made me shy and introverted. It took decades for me to Flatulo Aug 2012 #65

I agree. Same with me. Akoto Aug 2012 #92

Teachers are overworked, parents dumps their kids in school for babysitting. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #50

Adults are not modeling diffusion skills for kids in communities or at home MichiganVote Aug 2012 #61

Just watching TV should raise concern. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #66

I think it's ludicrous to make these sorts of conclusions about the victim who is in the hospital. LisaL Aug 2012 #55

So, Basically you are saying that the OP is a liar who pulled the summer bullying story renie408 Aug 2012 #60

I have no clue as to where he pulled his story from. Since he doesn't say how LisaL Aug 2012 #87

Shooting an unarmed person is probably bullying. Democat Aug 2012 #57

By the time someone chooses a weapon, the perp has surpassed bullying MichiganVote Aug 2012 #62

Very nuanced response, there. renie408 Aug 2012 #64

Huffpo is using this thread to tie the shooting to bullying krawhitham Aug 2012 #63

Police are saying they don't believe that vicitm was specifically targeted by the shooter. LisaL Aug 2012 #67

Where did you get that? I just read something that the police said it was a grudge renie408 Aug 2012 #70

It's in many reports. LisaL Aug 2012 #73

The admins might want to take notice of this. Could be bad. Ian_rd Aug 2012 #74

Sooo uhhhh how do you know this please? Ian_rd Aug 2012 #71

It pops up at his link Go Vols Aug 2012 #75

Even assuming for a second the suspect was actually bullied over the summer, there is nothing LisaL Aug 2012 #77

I freely admit renie408 Aug 2012 #81

What is the basis for your claim that this was a "bullied" kid? LisaL Aug 2012 #84

HuffPost is citing this thread, and this thread is citing HuffPost? Ian_rd Aug 2012 #78

Type in Perry Hall High School...it is all over Google. renie408 Aug 2012 #80

I can understand that but ... Ian_rd Aug 2012 #83

And that's how unsubstnatiated rumors and speculations become facts. LisaL Aug 2012 #82

The unconfirmed post they site is the OP. LisaL Aug 2012 #86

correct Go Vols Aug 2012 #88

the specifics don't matter? Enrique Aug 2012 #79

Where are you getting yr information from? MichiganVote Aug 2012 #85

For me the question is how do we teach empathy to our children? Flatulo Aug 2012 #91

There are exceptions to every rule...... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #114

Thanks for the kind words. I knew kids who were bullied far worse than I was. Flatulo Aug 2012 #115

Yours are Good questions that should be explored. Trillo Aug 2012 #120

Wow . . . the things that cause food fights. Stinky The Clown Aug 2012 #102

lame, but then you knew that. MichiganVote Aug 2012 #109

No, it wasn't "lame" Stinky The Clown Aug 2012 #112

No. It was lame. Your OP clearly stated ... Ian_rd Aug 2012 #116

That is what was being reported from the scene by the teevee news. Stinky The Clown Aug 2012 #117

"The victim, a special needs student" pintobean Aug 2012 #121

Victim has Down syndrome. LisaL Aug 2012 #122

Thank you pintobean Aug 2012 #123

DU Rec TheManInTheMac Aug 2012 #124