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The Velveteen Ocelot

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14. I respectfully disagree.

Wed May 22, 2019, 03:47 PM

May 2019

Let the investigations continue for a little longer until the public starts to notice how unlawful and outrageous Trump's behavior is. Right now it's just us politics junkies and some cable news talking heads who are paying attention. The Trump cult will never change their minds but there are a lot of people out there who haven't been paying attention - but they soon will. That's exactly what happened to Nixon on account of the Watergate hearings - in less than two years he went from 67% approval to 24%, and that's what made likely not just impeachment in the House but conviction in the Senate possible. Trump never even started out that high. The impeachment process has already started; they just aren't calling it that. Yet.

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Just IMPEACH HIM already and get it over with. [View all] Laelth May 2019 OP

Nicely stated. Chin music May 2019 #1

Exactly, and thank you. Laelth May 2019 #9

Why do people keep forgetting ScratchCat May 2019 #2

Well noted. Laelth May 2019 #6

What do you think is happening right now? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #3

I don't think that the Constitution mandates that Articles of Impeachment must be "well prepared." Laelth May 2019 #5

I respectfully disagree. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #14

I think we pay far too much attention to the polls. Laelth May 2019 #15

I think the way they're doing it now isn't betraying their consciences. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #16

I think the egos of some key committee chairs ... Laelth May 2019 #17

The Constitution doesn't say the Articles must be "well-prepared" but common sense and StarfishSaver May 2019 #19

Why? Laelth May 2019 #24

I can't believe you're asking someone to explain to you why Articles need to be "well-prepared" StarfishSaver May 2019 #26

I get your point. I hope, at some point, that you will get mine. n/t Laelth May 2019 #33

I get your point StarfishSaver May 2019 #39

Thank you. Laelth May 2019 #41

A drawn out investigation and hearing process is more politically damaging to Red Don than a vote uponit7771 May 2019 #4

Agreed! I think it's more fun watching him squirm. Initech May 2019 #7

I disagree. Laelth May 2019 #8

++1 Chin music May 2019 #10

His base isn't the people we're trying to reach, it's the never Trumpers and the small middle and uponit7771 May 2019 #21

George W. Bush was "selected" President in 2000 following Clinton's impeachment. Laelth May 2019 #11

Do you think that we can get 20 GOP senators to vote to remove?? Gothmog May 2019 #12

No. Conviction in the Senate is unrealistic. Laelth May 2019 #13

And then what? StarfishSaver May 2019 #18

Then the party can move on and work for the people. Laelth May 2019 #20

We can make it the senates problem after the Never Trumps and the small amount of independents have uponit7771 May 2019 #22

We can't move his numbers. Laelth May 2019 #28

Not his base number, we can move his republican numbers though. I understand the M$M focus's on his uponit7771 May 2019 #35

The party is working for the people... Wounded Bear May 2019 #23

The media focuses on our investigations. Laelth May 2019 #29

How? StarfishSaver May 2019 #25

Two things. Laelth May 2019 #30

That has nothing to do with what we were discussing. StarfishSaver May 2019 #32

Do It Imperfectly Me. May 2019 #27

I am sorry, but you are wrong. Laelth May 2019 #31

You Do Have To Make The Case Me. May 2019 #34

The public already knows that Trump is a lying scoundrel. Laelth May 2019 #36

WE Disagree Me. May 2019 #37

Fair enough. Laelth May 2019 #38

Speaker Pelosi seems to think she may not have the votes... AncientGeezer May 2019 #40

That is entirely possible, and it is the best explanation I have yet heard for her caution. Laelth May 2019 #42

... AncientGeezer May 2019 #43

Thank you for that. Laelth May 2019 #44

Start the impeachment hearings. dalton99a May 2019 #45