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Thu May 23, 2019, 06:14 PM

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Would you have a problem with human cloning? [View all] MicaelS May 2019 OP

depends on who it is - Trump? hell no! rurallib May 2019 #1

First thought that entered my mind when I saw the question in the OP True Dough May 2019 #103

😹nt Meowmee May 2019 #158

I'm not really sure TBH Proud Liberal Dem May 2019 #2

creepy yortsed snacilbuper May 2019 #3

Nope. Voltaire2 May 2019 #4

I don't have any religious hang-ups about anything... Moostache May 2019 #5

We are headed that way. MicaelS May 2019 #17

We can also create designer Frankenstein monsters. Blue_true May 2019 #63

So spot on. brush May 2019 #84

You seem to be advocating YOU not being born. Doodley May 2019 #112

Furthest thing from that. MicaelS May 2019 #161

Ahhh...hell yes! We live in a racist country. Guess who will be cloned... brush May 2019 #6

"Cloned to vote a certain way"? Codeine May 2019 #11

It's a duplicate, right? A duplicate of who? brush May 2019 #80

A genetic duplicate. Codeine May 2019 #87

White, tall, good facial symmetry - these are physical attributes that influence socio-economic Doodley May 2019 #122

That is a social construct Codeine May 2019 #127

Exactly the point I am making. Doodley May 2019 #132

So if a Uterine Replicator was invented... MicaelS May 2019 #21

What the hell is the push for this about? For those who can't get laid? brush May 2019 #83

Whites can already make as many whites as they want Codeine May 2019 #88

But birthrate is lowest of all. You have to know that, right? brush May 2019 #93

Of course, but that's not through lack of ability. Codeine May 2019 #94

Read the thread. That was already discussed in many posts... brush May 2019 #98

That's not what cloning is. Codeine May 2019 #104

They're duplicates. Didn't we already have this discussion? brush May 2019 #107

A genetic duplicate. Codeine May 2019 #110

And you fundamentally do? Doesn't seem like it. brush May 2019 #117

As I am more than the sum of my genes Codeine May 2019 #123

Seems naive to leave out the motivation of the cloners and the... brush May 2019 #126

People can have good motivations as well. meadowlander May 2019 #144

Pls, I nave no problem with the West Point family and that very... brush May 2019 #154

Presumably cloning is going to be a lot more expensive than artificial insemination though meadowlander May 2019 #106

One would hope so. You have more faith in the country than I do... brush May 2019 #109

No push, I asked questions I wanted to get answers about. MicaelS May 2019 #91

IMO you have more faith in the prevailing racial attitudes than is warranted. brush May 2019 #95

At no time did I mention race. MicaelS May 2019 #99

I'm not opposed to the process, it's the circumventing defacto7 May 2019 #108

Ridiculous. All you need for fertility treatments is money in this country. Hekate May 2019 #120

Fertility treatment is hardly the same as cloning. brush May 2019 #121

Science is science, and it has already happened with animals. Change has happened so fast.... Hekate May 2019 #131

The only think stopping some horrible people from doing bad things is applegrove May 2019 #7

A clone of Hitler Codeine May 2019 #19

Genetics plays at least a partial role in many mental illnesses. Are you saying, you'd be happy Doodley May 2019 #129

I wouldn't give two tugs of a dead dog's dick Codeine May 2019 #135

It wouldn't be a non-event. A cloned Hitler would be a Doodley May 2019 #143

Who would be immediately shut down. Codeine May 2019 #145

You don't think there's a demand for a Hitler clone? Such a being would be Doodley May 2019 #151

Of course, Codeine May 2019 #152

Too many unknowns and variables to say "yes" or "no" at this time. BigmanPigman May 2019 #8

Against shanti May 2019 #9

Why is it creepy? MicaelS May 2019 #15

Because of the future implications shanti May 2019 #22

What would the negative purposes be? Codeine May 2019 #38

Yes... ADX May 2019 #10

Ah, so humans are "Playing God", correct? MicaelS May 2019 #14

No, incorrect. I didn't say anything of the kind... ADX May 2019 #30

That's not really an explanation. Codeine May 2019 #16

The question I posed - "where does it stop?" - is self-explanatory enough... ADX May 2019 #35

Fair enough. Codeine May 2019 #37

Many posters seem to be under the impression Codeine May 2019 #12

Yup, I hoped someone would get THAT point. n/t MicaelS May 2019 #13

i disagree. human behavior is contingent on social environment and genetic Kurt V. May 2019 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 May 2019 #18

Nobody is postulating cloning armies of oneself. Codeine May 2019 #25

Post #23 is closer to my position JonLP24 May 2019 #26

And yet has nothing to do Codeine May 2019 #28

I'm sorry about that JonLP24 May 2019 #29

People seem to think clones are completely identical PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #20

When one identical twin commits a crime, let's lock up the other twin Brawndo May 2019 #75

Yes. I think it would be wonderful to clone humans and expect similar results from previous humans dameatball May 2019 #23

Yup. 2naSalit May 2019 #24

Every one of our manipulations of nature Codeine May 2019 #27

Cloning someone won't make them the same person. LiberalFighter May 2019 #31

Yes I do have a problem with cloning. mwooldri May 2019 #32

If I could see Freddie Mercury perform live, tavernier May 2019 #33

Yes! Can you imagine more Trumps doc03 May 2019 #34

It is a complicated subject (obviously) Caliman73 May 2019 #36

I am not sure id cloning bothers me SlogginThroughIt May 2019 #39

That would be fantastic. Codeine May 2019 #40

hmmm with terraforming and long range space travel perhaps SlogginThroughIt May 2019 #100

watch a great telly series.................Altered Carbon Celerity May 2019 #101

Yep I have seen it SlogginThroughIt May 2019 #102

Anthony Mackie (Falcon in the Avengers movies) is the new lead for season 2 Celerity May 2019 #111

Eugenics would be inevitable... backtoblue May 2019 #41

Eugenics is probably inevitable Codeine May 2019 #42

Agree backtoblue May 2019 #43

If someone had my same genes, they would still not be me Generic Brad May 2019 #44

that's not the objection. the objection is the health issues and not being considered JI7 May 2019 #46

They'd be a baby. Codeine May 2019 #50

they should be but many won't and they won't be treated well JI7 May 2019 #52

I think that assumes facts not in evidence. nt Codeine May 2019 #54

we already have facts with how humans treat each other JI7 May 2019 #55

I completely agree. Codeine May 2019 #48

my problem would be for the cloned person and how their life would be JI7 May 2019 #45

To be fair, any child faces those issues. Codeine May 2019 #49

i agree, but this would be another level plus we don't even know JI7 May 2019 #51

against, pending a solution to telomere shortage 0rganism May 2019 #47

I'm not sharp on the subject of cloning but... In It to Win It May 2019 #53

Humans cannot be trusted tymorial May 2019 #57

We're going to manipulate DNA. Codeine May 2019 #60

Oh and you think there will be a line they wont cross? Give me a break tymorial May 2019 #79

Every line will be crossed. Codeine May 2019 #86

Yes with conditions. meadowlander May 2019 #58

Why a proscription on further cloning? nt Codeine May 2019 #61

Each clone is an independent human being Codeine May 2019 #68

Yes. Because so much can go wrong. nt Blue_true May 2019 #59

Stuff goes wrong all the time when we make babies. Codeine May 2019 #64

The complexity of the human mind and body is enormous. Blue_true May 2019 #66

A clone is basically just a twin. Codeine May 2019 #72

Ego is the only reason why a person would want a clone, IMO. Blue_true May 2019 #76

I wouldn't clone myself, but I might raise a clone of someone else if I had the option. meadowlander May 2019 #78

I honestly don't know anyone among those that I kniw Blue_true May 2019 #82

I didn't say all white people are racially close minded meadowlander May 2019 #89

Why would it be needed? Ilsa May 2019 #62

It is all explained and explored in this, the best telenovela ever made. Croney May 2019 #67

Yes. Dorian Gray May 2019 #69

Your philosophical argument Codeine May 2019 #73

Sometimes Dorian Gray May 2019 #159

There's already too many people, so no... tinrobot May 2019 #70

No, I'll take two! tazkcmo May 2019 #71

The answer depends ENTIRELY upon the details. RockRaven May 2019 #74

It's a bad idea. Sexual reproduction as a process more or less strengthens our species. gulliver May 2019 #77

Would a clone be a secondary human? defacto7 May 2019 #85

I already am a clone, just of multiple people. meadowlander May 2019 #139

No. Snackshack May 2019 #81

Humans can't be trusted. We are not a natural animal on this planet. defacto7 May 2019 #90

Oh good lord. nt Codeine May 2019 #97

First off, this is NOT cloning...secondly, I have no problem with this or cloning... cynatnite May 2019 #92

The question was about cloning. defacto7 May 2019 #96

it will happen (if it hasn't already) and there is nothing, literally nothing, we can do to stop it Celerity May 2019 #105

A Chinese scientist claims to have done it Codeine May 2019 #114

I don't lose sleep over it. defacto7 May 2019 #118

Ya, for one thing we don't need more people and for another, mahina May 2019 #113

People imagine a clone is like a xerox copy, with everything the same, an adult. Uh, no. It's a baby Hekate May 2019 #115

There's a lot of that in this thread. Codeine May 2019 #119

There's a lot of nonsense in the thread about the dead West Point cadet, too... Hekate May 2019 #125

Zombie voters and Stepford Wives. Codeine May 2019 #128

I thought we were supposed to be the Party of Science. This is a bit discouraging. nt Hekate May 2019 #134

Ignorance knows no party. nt Codeine May 2019 #137

Yes. I have 7,706, 050,000 reasons and counting. GoCubsGo May 2019 #116

Jurassic Park from uncle Fred's hairbrush or saved baby teeth. keithbvadu2 May 2019 #124

You might not even get a physically identical person. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #130

Cat coloring is some funky stuff. Codeine May 2019 #138

That can result from the fact that a single litter can have more than one father. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #140

NO! sellitman May 2019 #133

as long as it is a democrat I am ok with it gopiscrap May 2019 #136

No, it's all just DNA basically... JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2019 #141

The year is 2050 and I'm shopping on Amazon for a clone. Doodley May 2019 #142

Can I get the delivery on Prime? meadowlander May 2019 #146

Are you saying, everything else sounds fine. Doodley May 2019 #148

I'm saying racists are going to racist. meadowlander May 2019 #150

Why would clones be sold? Codeine May 2019 #147

I didn't indicate the clones wouldn't have rights. Doodley May 2019 #149

Yes, and I don't really know why. Laffy Kat May 2019 #153

For this case I would say 'yes'. But for rich people to have designer babies? Fuck no !! YOHABLO May 2019 #155

NO please I_have_had_enough May 2019 #156

Not at all. BigRig May 2019 #157

I would love to clone myself. rownesheck May 2019 #160

It will both help and hurt. LanternWaste May 2019 #162

No, I wouldn't have a problem with it. nt Turin_C3PO May 2019 #163

Nobody objects to the use of acquired sperm for IVF... brooklynite May 2019 #164

Yes and no. bluedigger May 2019 #165