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Demovictory9

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Sun May 26, 2019, 05:08 AM May 2019

Could you give up flying? Meet the no-plane pioneers [View all]

Could you give up flying? Meet the no-plane pioneers

Growing numbers of travellers are abandoning air travel to help save the planet – even if it means spending 14 days on a train



It has taken Roger Tyers four days to reach Moscow by train from Kiev. His destination is Beijing: a trip that will take 14 days, with a couple of overnight stops along the way. Tyers, an environmental sociologist at the University of Southampton, is on his way to China to research attitudes to the environment, the climate emergency and personal responsibility. “Given that, I thought it would be somewhat hypocritical of me to fly,” he says over Skype from his hostel room.

It has been months in the planning – he had to convince his bosses to give him a month off to travel to and from China. Has it been a pain? “It definitely has. It’s a matter of getting your train schedule in line with your visa requirements. I didn’t realise I needed a visa to travel through Mongolia, even though I’m not stopping there. There have been moments when I’ve been close to giving up and either cancelling the whole trip or just booking a flight.” But he is glad he has stuck with it, he says. “I have to prove it is possible.”

The no-fly movement is a small but growing community of people who are drastically reducing the number of flights they take, or giving up air travel altogether. Many campaigners say they feel flying is about to receive the same attention as shunning plastic or eating less meat because of its 2% contribution to global carbon emissions, predicted to grow to as much as 16% by 2050. In Sweden, where the movement has taken off, a new term has emerged: flygskam, meaning “flight shame”. Siân Berry, the co-leader of the Green party, has called on people to take no more than one flight a year and suggested a tax should be imposed on further journeys. Berry hasn’t flown since 2005.

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2019/may/22/could-you-give-up-flying-meet-the-no-plane-pioneers

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I am taking the train to NY in September mnhtnbb May 2019 #1
I recently took a train from Charlotte to Seattle. And back. cwydro May 2019 #8
I am a cautious flyer as well... Phentex May 2019 #11
I loved flying but Sherman A1 May 2019 #2
I never liked flying - guess who stays awake during a red eye listening to engines. Vinca May 2019 #3
I will join as soon as we have train service across the US and passenger sinkingfeeling May 2019 #4
I haven't flown in at least 15 years, but we don't travel much. Luciferous May 2019 #5
I'd happily never fly again Thyla May 2019 #6
As an American living in Europe with family and job center in the USA DFW May 2019 #7
I expect to never again fly HAB911 May 2019 #9
This doesn't add up. KentuckyWoman May 2019 #10
Those of us who are retired or self employed mnhtnbb May 2019 #12
Very few KentuckyWoman May 2019 #13
The 1% aren't taking the train. mnhtnbb May 2019 #14
Not what I meant KentuckyWoman May 2019 #15
You might want to ride the train before you start in on me. mnhtnbb May 2019 #18
I am not your enemy. KentuckyWoman May 2019 #21
Your response to me was snotty. mnhtnbb May 2019 #23
For me, the journey would be the destination. Aristus May 2019 #26
in the past 30 years I have flown 5 times so Akacia May 2019 #16
Easily. I hate to fly. smirkymonkey May 2019 #17
I'd love to give up flying, when teleporting is available. SharonClark May 2019 #19
No. My job requires I fly frequently. Nt hack89 May 2019 #20
Commercial aircraft get between 90-100MPG per average passenger. TheBlackAdder May 2019 #22
I just had two turbulent flights-from-Hell this last week to Colorado and back. Aristus May 2019 #24
Ah, but have you seen.... DFW May 2019 #35
Unless it's going to take more than two days to drive there MurrayDelph May 2019 #25
I haven't flown anywhere in Ilsa May 2019 #27
I was on a plane once. House of Roberts May 2019 #28
Impractical ideas like this will not save the planet Downtown Hound May 2019 #29
It must be nice to have all that free time. MineralMan May 2019 #30
No. I'm sure it must be nice to have all that time and money and a boss who'll pay your way Hekate May 2019 #31
I last flew in 1983 trackfan May 2019 #32
Give up flying? Sure, but it would take some time to get anywere mitch96 May 2019 #33
I cannot take two weeks to get somewhere, that's for sure Skittles May 2019 #34
Flying isn't what it used to be. Liberal In Texas May 2019 #36
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