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hlthe2b

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14. Impeachment is a process, thus the problem with these polls & all discussions-- unconscionable
Mon May 27, 2019, 10:55 AM
May 2019
Many on those polls and in these discussions believe "impeachment" means taking the actual VOTE. Thus such poll results are not surprising when that is not where we are at or what should be the question, at all.


If you asked if hearings should continue that MIGHT lead to an impeachment VOTE, the answers WOULD be starkly different.

If you actually called these hearings "impeachment inquiries" but prefaced that they may or may NOT lead to a vote to impeach, the answers would be starkly different.

If you actually called these hearings "impeachment hearings" but again prefaced that they may or may NOT lead to a vote to impeach, the answers would likely be less dramatic but still different.

Impeachment is a process and we, our less biased media allies, and Congress itself have done a piss poor job both discussing it as such and differentiating where we are at now.
So impeachment is officially a political, HopeAgain May 2019 #1
Impeachment isn't a legal process, but a political one in the purest sense of the word StarfishSaver May 2019 #3
I doubt you will get Repubs to support impeachment which is the one ingredient everyone wasupaloopa May 2019 #8
Not everyone ignores this Andy823 May 2019 #22
Exactly, and the reality is that the grounds for impeachment are whatever Congress decides it to be. still_one May 2019 #10
RCP is a right leaning site- any wonder why they are making the anti-impeachment argument? Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #2
Please name five Democrat Reps who "unilaterally oppose impeachment". StarfishSaver May 2019 #5
No it is not because it will not remove trump. Why do you ignore the fact that wasupaloopa May 2019 #7
Why do you ignore the fact that impeachment is not solely about removal? Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #11
No it is a waste of time. We have committees working wasupaloopa May 2019 #16
Sorry to hear you feel defending the Constitution is a waste of time Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #26
It is the old idealism vs pragmatism. You need to consider wasupaloopa May 2019 #33
No, impeachment isn't "about" any of that. StarfishSaver May 2019 #17
Stronger legal standing to crush obstruction Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #25
No stronger legal standing StarfishSaver May 2019 #31
Release of the grand jury testimony. watoos May 2019 #30
No StarfishSaver May 2019 #32
Prove it -link or slink nt Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #53
Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 6(e) StarfishSaver May 2019 #54
+ struggle4progress May 2019 #24
If Trump won't be removed why bother? What would be accomplished? walkingman May 2019 #4
Not opening an impeachment inquiry implies acceptance of Trump's conduct Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #15
Perhaps that's what YOU infer from the fact that Congress isn't acting on your timetable StarfishSaver May 2019 #18
I totally agree with your assessment of Trump. The ongoing investigations could possibly/hopefully walkingman May 2019 #19
The House Democrats are conducting investigations. ChiTownDenny May 2019 #21
No it doesn't Trumpocalypse May 2019 #50
Impeachment will not forcibly remove this piece of shit from the White House wasupaloopa May 2019 #6
No one leaves that out of the discussion maxsolomon May 2019 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author wasupaloopa May 2019 #65
You Have It Exactly Right Me. May 2019 #9
+1 ChiTownDenny May 2019 #12
DU purists, at least, seem to believe your 'weak, afraid, unorganized' - and that is damage empedocles May 2019 #13
It's Not Just DU Purists Me. May 2019 #35
chumming stopdiggin May 2019 #29
Chumming Is The Perfect Term Me. May 2019 #38
37 have came out and publicly supported impeachment standingtall May 2019 #44
Maybe Me. May 2019 #45
There are reports that there are more but they are just gldstwmn May 2019 #61
Impeachment is a process, thus the problem with these polls & all discussions-- unconscionable hlthe2b May 2019 #14
they need to get on board EveHammond13 May 2019 #20
Oh my god! Not "recent reporting"! Those guys are realy up on things! Iggo May 2019 #23
One simple question: Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #27
Gain support of the American public! ChiTownDenny May 2019 #36
...not sure if that was clear. ChiTownDenny May 2019 #40
You gain support by pushing for impeachment not by pushing back against it. standingtall May 2019 #41
Right?! Just exactly where is that dare-not-cross red line with the "IMPEACHABLE VIOLATION" signage? VOX May 2019 #37
Well, if he were a Democrat Bettie May 2019 #56
Okay matt819 May 2019 #28
Sometimes the majority is wrong, watoos May 2019 #34
If there are not enough votes in the house for impeachment than it is the job of house leadership to standingtall May 2019 #39
I agree Poiuyt May 2019 #69
I don't support impeachment. It carries too many risks. Quemado May 2019 #42
If Trump is not impeached he will claim exoneration standingtall May 2019 #43
That is true, too. Quemado May 2019 #46
Trump will use a Not Guilty verdict in the Senate Locutusofborg May 2019 #47
The senate not convicting is not constitutional exoneration the founders didn't think so either standingtall May 2019 #48
Except he will escape punishment qazplm135 May 2019 #55
If the house votes to impeach he is impeached which will be a permanent mark standingtall May 2019 #57
oh no, not a mark! qazplm135 May 2019 #58
Impeachment is not equilavent to a criminal trial standingtall May 2019 #60
so you have a sample size of three qazplm135 May 2019 #62
Again you gain support for impeachment by pushing for it not by pushing back against it standingtall May 2019 #64
"Impeachment" is not necessarily "removal." Hard to have a conversation about it when theres so Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2019 #49
True. But fixable, while willful ignorance is terminally intransigent. Hortensis May 2019 #59
Majority supports investigations to ensure elections are not corrupted again by foreign influence. Freethinker65 May 2019 #51
We NEED the facts presented in impeachment investigation elleng May 2019 #52
Exactly - thats what the impeachment process is - investigating and setting out the facts by the Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2019 #66
People don't understand the process, elleng May 2019 #67
The I process is what the House decides it is StarfishSaver May 2019 #68
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