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Mon May 27, 2019, 08:30 PM

3. The problem with a double blind study is most of them don't get carried out over the long period

of time you'd need to make sure there weren't affects on fertility ten or twenty years after childhood vaccination.

YES there is a clear association between the virus and ovarian cancer. But the pap smear was already being successfully used to find the virus-caused dysplasias before they turned into cancer. And the pap smear can identify dysplasias caused by strains of the virus not covered by the vaccines.

There is now also an HPV test (as opposed to the vaccine) that can be done along with a pap smear.


A Pap test is used to find cell changes or abnormal cells in the cervix. (These abnormal cells may be pre-cancer or cancer, but they may also be other things, too.) Cells are lightly scraped or brushed off the cervix. They are sent to a lab and looked at under a microscope to see if the cells are normal or if changes can be seen. The Pap test is a very good test for finding cancer cells and cells that might become cancer.

HPV is a virus that can cause cervix cell changes. The HPV test checks for the virus, not cell changes. The test can be done at the same time as the Pap test, with the same swab or a second swab. You won’t notice a difference in your exam if you have both tests. A Pap test plus an HPV test (called co-testing) is the preferred way to find early cervical cancers or pre-cancers in women 30 and older.

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