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EX500rider

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53. I was just reading about it this weekend:
Tue May 28, 2019, 03:03 PM
May 2019

"The Ford class has become a major crisis. In February 2018 the navy confirmed that it had major problems with the design and construction of its new EMALS (Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System) catapult installed in its latest aircraft carrier; the USS Ford (CVN 78) and the three other Ford-class carriers under construction. During sea trials, the Ford used EMALS heavily, as would be the case in combat and training operations and found EMALS less reliable than the older steam catapult. EMALS was also more labor intensive to operate and put more stress on launched aircraft than expected. Worse, due to a basic design flaw, if one EMALS catapult becomes inoperable, the other three catapults could not be used in the meantime as was the case with steam catapults. This meant that the older practice of taking one or more steam catapults offline for maintenance or repairs while at sea was not practical. The navy admitted that in combat if one or more catapults were rendered unusable they remained that way until it was possible to shut down all four catapults for repairs. During the initial at-sea tests the EMALS failed once every 75 aircraft launches. The standard for steam catapults is one failure every 4,166 launches. The landing and recovery system also had reliability problems, failing once every 76 landings, which is far below the standard of one failure per 16,500 landings. In effect, these problems with launching and recovering aircraft make the Fords much less effective than the older Truman (and other Nimitz class CVNs). The navy has long had a growing problem with developing new ships and technology and the Ford is the worst example to date. With no assurance as to when and to what extent the launch and recovery systems would be fixed (and be at least as effective as the older steam catapults) the navy was overruled and told to keep the Truman.

The navy also asked for another delay in performing mandated shock tests for the Ford, in which controlled explosions were set off near the hull that generated at least 66 percent of the amount of force the ship was designed to handle. This would reveal what equipment was not sufficiently built or installed to handle shock and make changes as well as confirming that the hull can handle the stress overall. The navy wants to wait until the second Ford-class carrier enters service in 2024 because, it admits, it is unsure how badly shock tests would damage new systems and design features. Meanwhile, there are some other major shortcomings with the Fords, including electronics (the radars), some of the elevators and a few other mechanical systems. But none of these are as serious as the malfunctioning catapults. Progress is being made in improving the reliability of the new launch and recovery system but such progress has been very slow and there is no convincing plan to achieve parity with steam catapult systems any time soon.

Some of the problems with EMALS were of the sort that could be fixed while the new ship was in service. That included tweaking EMALS operation to generate less stress on aircraft and modifying the design of EMALS and reorganizing how sailors use the system to attain the smaller number of personnel required for catapult operations. But the fatal flaws involved reliability. An EMALS catapult was supposed to have a breakdown every 4,100 launches but even after some initial fixes, in heavy use, EMALS actually failed every 400 launches. By the end of 2017, the Navy concluded that an EMALS equipped carrier had only a seven percent chance of successfully completing a typical four-day “surge” (multiple catapult launches for a major combat operation) and only a 70 percent chance of completing a one-day surge operation. That was mainly because when one EMALS catapult went down all four were inoperable. In effect, the Ford-class carriers are much less capable of performing in combat than their predecessors. The navy hopes they can come up with some kind of, as yet unknown, modifications to EMALS to fix all these problems. In the meantime, the new Ford carrier is much less useful than older ones that use steam catapults.

There are no easy solutions. For example, it would cost over half a billion dollars to remove EMALS and install the older steam catapults. This would also take up to several years and lead to many other internal changes. The navy even considered bringing a recently retired (because of age) carrier back to active service as a stopgap because whatever the fix is it will not be quick or cheap. The most worrisome part of this is the apparent inability of Navy shipbuilding and design experts to come up with a solution for the problem they created. For the navy officers and civilian officials involved, there is another problem. When the EMALS problems became obvious the current Secretary of Defense was a retired Marine Corps general who has a good idea of how the navy operates without being part of the navy (the Marine Corps and Navy are two separate services in the Department of the Navy). The marines have a well-deserved reputation for being less understanding about failure and in a situation like this, a former marine general as Secretary of Defense was very bad news for the navy officers responsible for creating, sustaining and being unable to fix this EMALS disaster. The marine general resigned after two years but his civilian replacement knew that the flawed Fords were still a major problem that could not be ignored."

https://strategypage.com/htmw/htnavai/articles/20190526.aspx

Seriously. Turd wants to take us back to the age of steam power. lagomorph777 May 2019 #1
Hey, also leave room in the ship for tons of coal to fire the new steam engines just mandated RKP5637 May 2019 #3
Back? All of our carriers are steam powered - either directly or indirectly. FBaggins May 2019 #4
I know, nuclear steam power, blah blah.... lagomorph777 May 2019 #5
That's the open question of course FBaggins May 2019 #12
Exactly!!! "Where he's wrong is in not delegating such decisions to the experts. RKP5637 May 2019 #23
Not "quite" true.................. MyOwnPeace May 2019 #44
As he said .. he has an uncle who was at MIT ... karynnj May 2019 #29
Easy enough for him to say FBaggins May 2019 #2
A failure of "concurrent engineering" Mopar151 May 2019 #40
Someone put whisper words in his ear. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #6
Add more horses for extra horse power. BSdetect May 2019 #7
Okay. That was funny underpants May 2019 #36
Can we use a catapult on him instead? Initech May 2019 #8
Excellent idea!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2019 #26
And what would power all those old fashioned procon May 2019 #9
Kinda cute, but .... No dumbcat May 2019 #24
tRump to offer a conversion kit from nuclear to coal. Sign up here and convert your RKP5637 May 2019 #27
HA! dumbcat May 2019 #31
republican Draft Dodgers are experts at military techology* Achilleaze May 2019 #10
Next thing you know BillyBobBrilliant May 2019 #11
He'll want to bring back the Stanley Steamer!Just some FYI for folks that might not know what it was RKP5637 May 2019 #25
because nobody knows aircraft carrier design better than Trump? NewJeffCT May 2019 #13
Did anyone bother to tell him the USS Wasp isn't an aircraft carrier? Docreed2003 May 2019 #14
And no catapult Captain_New_York May 2019 #37
So the "poll" was based on who cheered loudest? Jim__ May 2019 #15
Yes, yes, yes! Idiotic. And how many in the audience know anything... brush May 2019 #39
Trump: "AND WHY ISN'T MY PICTURE ON IT?!?!?" durablend May 2019 #16
Is there some Mar-a-Lago member who hates the electric version for some reason? muriel_volestrangler May 2019 #17
if he lasts, presidents get ships named after them. I give you the USS trump... Javaman May 2019 #18
K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2019 #28
If that's a Cleveland Steamer it's fitting for him underpants May 2019 #34
And.......... MyOwnPeace May 2019 #45
Wrong picture. jmowreader May 2019 #47
Because he knows more than any other person on earth. sinkingfeeling May 2019 #19
We are so fucked whenever he makes a decision about anything. LonePirate May 2019 #20
The stupid. It burns. GoCubsGo May 2019 #21
trump has been showing signs of senility for a long time Gothmog May 2019 #22
Go back to WW-I biplanes. lpbk2713 May 2019 #30
Steam Force! Anon-C May 2019 #32
LOL underpants May 2019 #35
He knows more than anyone who's ever been on an aircraft carrier. spanone May 2019 #33
Does anyone here really know anything about the electromagnetic catapults dumbcat May 2019 #38
Interesting China's purportedly on the cusp of deploying catapult launch systems in their carrier... Anon-C May 2019 #42
I would guess that they are trying to assess the risk dumbcat May 2019 #52
I think the thing is to perfect it on land, then put it in a training carrier....then the fleet.. EX500rider May 2019 #56
I was just reading about it this weekend: EX500rider May 2019 #53
Ouch! That is what I was afraid of dumbcat May 2019 #54
who are the subcontractors? edhopper May 2019 #41
Yep, those that see $$$$$'s, and likely tRump takes a cut ... like Cheney with his GSA no-bid RKP5637 May 2019 #43
Jesus Fucking Christ! The fucking WASP doesn't even have catapults maxrandb May 2019 #46
The all-knowing moron dalton99a May 2019 #48
Wish he 'knew when to leave." Chin music May 2019 #55
Because Cheetolini knows more than our generals and admirals Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2019 #49
I can just imagine Trump as president in 1876 jmowreader May 2019 #50
this may be akin to his reported obsession with fabric swatches... Grasswire2 May 2019 #51
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