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Meadowoak

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1. I couldn't have said it better! You are 1000 percent correct

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Argument not to impeach . . . is a move to normalize this behavior. [View all] pdsimdars Jun 2019 OP

I couldn't have said it better! You are 1000 percent correct Meadowoak Jun 2019 #1

And what sort of behavior will be normalized if Trump wins again and has the house too pray tell. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #72

No reason to think impeachment would lead to that Bradical79 Jun 2019 #91

Absolutely. honest.abe Jun 2019 #2

Well said. K&R DLevine Jun 2019 #3

Nonsense...with the do nothing senate in place...it will do nothing except hurt us politically. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #4

That is the question. If we impeach, and the Senate doesn't convict, will the public realize that still_one Jun 2019 #6

I agree with you metroins Jun 2019 #9

No evidence to support your fear based defeatism. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #28

Here's the evidence: George II Jun 2019 #65

The assertion was "impeachment will backfire" Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #66

What? metroins Jun 2019 #71

Impeach and beat him at the ballot box hot2na Jun 2019 #53

We shouldn't charge cops who murder innocent unarmed people because the jury might not convict. Gore1FL Jun 2019 #13

Thank you JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #17

Yes, and we shouldn't have fought after Pearl Harbor because we didn't know the Atom bomb would be Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #29

This "jury" has no justice in it treestar Jun 2019 #61

Make their position untenable. Gore1FL Jun 2019 #64

+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #67

Apples and oranges...impeachment is political but not criminal...but the true analogy is if Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #73

Your "we can't" attitude is why we lose. Gore1FL Jun 2019 #79

we have 40 moderates who gave us the house who are up for reelection...many if not most from red Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #89

The conundrum is that we can't know that. We are in uncharted territory. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #15

No evidence to support your assertion, only fear based defeatism. Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #27

Why risk it? He will be out in a a year and a half...doubt we could finish impeachment ...what is Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #74

Around here, we won the Congress to impeach and or stop, the president. Chin music Jun 2019 #76

No we didn't. We won on health care...and a general dislike of Trump. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #85

That's a warm cup of coco. Chin music Jun 2019 #87

Why risk not doing it? Gore1FL Jun 2019 #81

You are dreaming...what will happen if we will lose the house and the presidency...look at Senate Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #84

You are a being a political chicken little. Gore1FL Jun 2019 #92

The definition of courage is acting despite fear Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #83

I fear losing the 2020 election and sending a Republican congress back in 20... Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #86

Why would having the Dems not do their jobs change this outcome. Gore1FL Jun 2019 #93

Would love to hear the argument for that statement Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #30

False dichotomy, senate not needed to follow constitution and hurt Trump/republicans uponit7771 Jun 2019 #69

It hurts us not the Senate if we lose 2020 ...both the presidency and the house and for what so a Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #75

Person and Party of the impeached does not fare well on controlling gov post impeachment uponit7771 Jun 2019 #77

If we do nothing, we will lose the house anyway. Meadowoak Jun 2019 #78

And we would deserve to. Gore1FL Jun 2019 #82

Not if he gets a Republican congress and wins again...there is no appetite for impeachment...there Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #88

Person and party of the impeached hasn't fared well post impeachment process for 3 different ... uponit7771 Jun 2019 #90

NONSENSE Skittles Jun 2019 #80

If Trump is impeached, and the Senate doesn't convict, is the American public intelligent enough to still_one Jun 2019 #5

No. But those in Trump's corner won't change their minds (if they even care that he's corrupt). Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #26

On your second point you and I are in agreement, which is why I see still_one Jun 2019 #57

2 things ..the senate has already stated they will not convict no matter what he has done. Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #34

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2019 #70

Why don't we quit beating around the bush? watoos Jun 2019 #7

Pelosi has never wanted impeachment for anyone. She's made her thoughts on that clear: Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #18

+1 n/t area51 Jun 2019 #68

Perspective. Let's see, losing our constitution or . . . . .? pdsimdars Jun 2019 #37

i agree, but patience, grasshopper. mopinko Jun 2019 #8

Those arguments are projections. Opening an impeachment inquiry IS the process to gather facts. pdsimdars Jun 2019 #38

i really dont think it is a matter of IF, but of WHEN. mopinko Jun 2019 #41

With such precision you write..please create an OP for your comment... asiliveandbreathe Jun 2019 #40

If lying about a blowjob ends up in impeachment... TCJ70 Jun 2019 #10

It's funny how the Rs actually look for and create fights -- like the endless investigations KPN Jun 2019 #25

The "I" word for now should be investigation of crimes committed. Lonestarblue Jun 2019 #11

+1000 wryter2000 Jun 2019 #21

There's almost zero chance of indictment while he's in office. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #22

Yea, Saudis dismembers a journalist in their embassy in Turkey, too much trouble to pursue them pdsimdars Jun 2019 #42

Reality. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #46

Wasn't Muellers investigation the investigation? TCJ70 Jun 2019 #33

Does Trump's behavior meet the criteria for HIGH CRIMES and misdemeanors? Martin Eden Jun 2019 #12

Your examples of standing for principle were resolved by war, not impeachment. Just saying. KPN Jun 2019 #14

The Constitution is under an assault just as dangerous as any war. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #32

I don't disagree at all. I was simply making an observation. One that I think may ultimately KPN Jun 2019 #39

But I meant, they were willing to DIE for their principles and we are afraid to lose seats. pdsimdars Jun 2019 #44

Understood. I was just making an observation. There's some irony in your examples in KPN Jun 2019 #54

Every time he is questioned on the lawn normalizes his behavior. gordianot Jun 2019 #16

No it is not wryter2000 Jun 2019 #19

There is no guarantee that "the most effective way of removing him" as you say will be successful. KPN Jun 2019 #43

The only way to remove him from office before 2024 is to beat him in 2020 wryter2000 Jun 2019 #50

I disagree about the only way. You are making assumptions that an impeachment inquiry will not KPN Jun 2019 #56

Never, ever will they convict wryter2000 Jun 2019 #59

That's okay. You lost me too. I didn't say they will convict, in fact, I said "chances are they KPN Jun 2019 #62

You are absolutely correct. warmfeet Jun 2019 #20

If the shoe were on the other foot, would the Repubs impeach? Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #24

Not only that, but they consolidated control via bald-faced nefarious means over the next 12 years KPN Jun 2019 #48

Yikes. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #55

The Rs are waging a war against the Ds whether we know it or not. Meanwhile, we KPN Jun 2019 #58

Rachel Maddow brought up the question whether McConnell is involved at all. pdsimdars Jun 2019 #49

The wrecking ball is swinging.. full speed ahead with trumpshit.. mountain grammy Jun 2019 #23

Let's just simply. Do the right thing. Impeach. c-rational Jun 2019 #31

That's all that needs to be said for the clear minded. But others don't seem to get it. pdsimdars Jun 2019 #51

As far as I can tell, no Democrat, NOT ONE, is arguing against impeachment. beastie boy Jun 2019 #35

Exactly..."don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes" comes to mind... asiliveandbreathe Jun 2019 #45

To impeach or not to impeach Joediss Jun 2019 #36

I tell you, this is the way a lot of regular people are thinking. In the beltway they seem muddled pdsimdars Jun 2019 #52

YESSSSS!!!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #47

I find many reactions by leaders Ponietz Jun 2019 #60

K&R onecaliberal Jun 2019 #63