The Way We Were: This is inspired by the increased interest here and elsewhere

[Smarmie Doofus]

26. This isn't true either:

>>> But men are not followed for the purpose of being singled out for assault because they're men. WOMEN are. >>>

Spend some time in the Bronx. Happens all the time. BS macho codes prohibit gangs of 'utes from targeting and beating up single females on subways etc. but it's ok... even often a rite of initiation... to select a single male... esp. young males ... for a pounding and then relieving them of ipod, smart phone etc.

Calm down, for christ sakes. The OP was not intended to provoke an argument that one side has to "win" or "lose". It was meant to provide some clarity and/or consensus over what constitutes rape and what does not. Your position generally is that ... at least in the case of males as victims .... there is no such thing as rape...other than that which involves forcible penetration.

Other people think that diminished capacity and inability to consent are also factors.

But that's your story and your sticking to it. Go for it.

"Don't change. You're your own girl, with your own style."