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In reply to the discussion: If You Think Impeaching Trump Will Rally His Supporters, You Don't Understand The Authoritarian Mind [View all]Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)other to investigate allegations, hold impeachment inquiries, whatever. There may be no proof in history to prove that one way or the other?
Perhaps it depends on what the average person deems as a serious allegation? For instance, Clinton lying about an affair (although he didnt think a blowjob was sexual intercourse), to me was not a serious crime. But i had a hundred other, more important reasons to vote against the republicans in 2000 anyway. And so would people who love trump no matter what.
I know the bar is probably higher now than in 1972-3 for what people think is horrible behavior and its gone up a lot since trump got in. But I sincerely think that a lack of immediate, unilateral outrage from our side the moment mueller report came out, along with a declaration that we all believed the obstruction incidences were indeed impeachment worthy, set the tone. And, you cant be retroactively outraged.
So now, we are in a difficult place. It will be a long time until the various jurisdictions adjudicate other allegations to pile on to the obstruction if they apply. And with stonewalling, it is difficult and time consuming to replicate the other allegations in the House if they apply. We also run the risk of backlash for appearing like we are on a fishing expedition. If there are other allegations that arent yet public, and they need time to investigate those, why wouldnt Nadler know that, since he sounds like he is close to breaking rank.
Bottom line, this has become a difficult time and scope problem.