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DFW

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22. Hardly!
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 09:56 AM
Jun 2019

Last edited Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:43 AM - Edit history (2)

My wife is a retired German social worker (we live near Düsseldorf).

By no means is everyone covered, and certain procedures, especially dental, are deemed "optional" by all the German insurance companies so they can get out of paying for them altogether. When my wife took early retirement at age 60 (both health reasons and mobbing at work), I had to spring for her coverage (about €450 a month, or $6500 a year), or she wouldn't have been covered at all between the ages of 60 and 65. Good thing, too, since she had her second battle with cancer at age 64, and that was brutal. She was in the hospital for a month and then later on in rehab for almost another month.

Germany loves its bureaucracy almost as much as France loves its own, and it expects every one to take care of their own paperwork, even the several dozen thousand illiterate Germans (they get through school with street smarts, but they are there). If you are not active in taking care of your own, either a social worker does it for you or you really can fall through the cracks, and be totally without.

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The Netherlands is not a socialist country. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #1
Well said Miigwech Jun 2019 #4
Those countries have ownership just like we do, except that they have more of it, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #5
True Miigwech Jun 2019 #7
Yes, but it's still not socialism. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #9
That is not correct Jeroen Jun 2019 #15
I don't know which Netherlands you mean, but it's not the one in Europe DFW Jun 2019 #17
Fantasy land no, who said that? Miigwech Jun 2019 #46
You reported a minimum wage DFW Jun 2019 #47
"ben" not "bent" Ron Obvious Jun 2019 #54
Tricky--if I were asking a question, you would be correct. DFW Jun 2019 #55
It should be "bent" according to the rule Ron Obvious Jun 2019 #56
Plus, the Dutch tend not to pronounce consonants at the end of a word to begin with DFW Jun 2019 #57
Alright. We'll call it a draw. Ron Obvious Jun 2019 #58
Agreed DFW Jun 2019 #59
It would be nice if we had a system Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #2
Agreed, we SHOULD DFW Jun 2019 #18
Germany doesn't have universal coverage? Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #20
Hardly! DFW Jun 2019 #22
Wow that's surprising to me. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #23
Of course we do. Like I said--in the States they like to tell stories of Fantasyland DFW Jun 2019 #34
Thanks for your post! Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #38
German has a more complicated grammar than Dutch or Scandinavian, but it is far more widely spoken DFW Jun 2019 #41
I'm having a hell of a hard time with German grammar! Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #43
You can easily memorize the dative prepositions by singing them to The Blue Danube. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #45
Norwegian and Swedish (essentially the same anyway) are the insider's tip for learning a language DFW Jun 2019 #48
There are quirks, of course. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #50
The word order oddities become instinctive after a while DFW Jun 2019 #51
I thought of trying to learn Icelandic just for giggles; The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #52
Get a copy of the old film "Pathfinder." DFW Jun 2019 #53
OMG, how do they ever even know what time it is in Denmark? The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #61
I found a movie in Sami called "Pathfinder" The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #62
Yes, I know what Sami is. DFW Jun 2019 #63
But can you *speak* Sami? The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #64
No props for Sami, I'm afraid DFW Jun 2019 #65
Spanish has a more linear sentence structure than German. DFW Jun 2019 #49
The D-Day commemoration sparked a thought in me. Yavin4 Jun 2019 #3
Well Pearl Harbor was unforeseen FakeNoose Jun 2019 #24
Unforeseen by whom ? eppur_se_muova Jun 2019 #32
I have been in Amsterdam KentuckyWoman Jun 2019 #6
May I ask ... when were you last in Amsterdam ? Miigwech Jun 2019 #8
I love Amsterdam, the first city I ever visited in Europe. When I visited in the early 1990s, it deurbano Jun 2019 #12
2018 KentuckyWoman Jun 2019 #66
I am trying to figure out how we had such different Miigwech Jun 2019 #69
I have also been in Amsterdam and experienced nothing like that. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #10
Me either. I used to travel regularly to Netherlands on business, ooky Jun 2019 #11
I have a friend who had an unfortunate accident in LibDemAlways Jun 2019 #13
Key phrase there DFW Jun 2019 #21
Wow! FakeNoose Jun 2019 #25
I'd like to hear the argument saying a 16 year old with heart cancer had a pre-existing condition DFW Jun 2019 #35
Your sense of Holland is based on Amsterdam? a la izquierda Jun 2019 #19
I love Utrecht DFW Jun 2019 #36
I can read Dutch slowly but surely... a la izquierda Jun 2019 #68
I said Amsterdam. KentuckyWoman Jun 2019 #67
But don't they have cancer-causing windmills there? tclambert Jun 2019 #14
Yes, but you needn't worry DFW Jun 2019 #37
You can also play this game with Thyla Jun 2019 #16
Although I have traveled a bit, I have not made it to Amsterdam, and I should, because ... planetc Jun 2019 #26
There is no Utopia and nothing is free. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #27
Last I visited Amsterdam, I was extremely outraged and upset. NNadir Jun 2019 #28
It's called the Red Light District, or De Wallen. OliverQ Jun 2019 #30
My feeling is that it must represent, in many cases, human slavery. NNadir Jun 2019 #31
Prostitution is legal and regulated in the Netherlands but they are concerned The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #33
One of my coworkers is from the Netherlands. He's moving back this summer. OliverQ Jun 2019 #29
Does the Dutch Government do a better job brewing Heineken or Amstel? brooklynite Jun 2019 #39
Out of curiosity, why do you feel the need to defend the term "socialism" brooklynite Jun 2019 #40
That's the point I'm trying to make, too. Trying to defend "socialism" The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #42
Very true. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #44
That's why it's funny when Americans say that America is the best country in the world. Oneironaut Jun 2019 #60
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