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hughee99

(16,113 posts)
40. If you want it to be as open and public as possible, you send the charges to the Senate and have an
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:29 AM
Jun 2019

actual impeachment trial. You make the case and force the republicans in the Senate to either support Trump or turn on him. Put each and every Senator on the spot to do their job. If the house feels like Trump should be impeached, and that they can make the case for it, it's their JOB to do it.

Saying "We think he should be removed, and we believe we can make the case" and then not do it is political cowardice. The public opinion will turn on the strength of the case. Those who say that the Senate acquitted him, so he must not have done anything wrong, aren't going to be swayed by anything the house does anyway. Those who agree with the House would be the "choir", you don't need to preach to them and the Senate vote won't matter to them anyway. This is for the undecided, and the best way to get them to pay attention is to have an actual Senate trial.

What this path is, is a way to make political hay from the issue without actually doing what they're supposed to do about it.

“I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

If they can make the case, they know what they need to do (make the case to remove him from office) and they believe they can do it, what valid reason would the have to NOT do it? If you say that they shouldn't do it because sending it to the senate may hurt Dems politically, you're admitting that it's okay not to do their job when it's a political liability.

Nancy will have to give this some consideration. There is no way she CAN miss this... hlthe2b Jun 2019 #1
I'm sure she's considering it. I wouldn't be surprised if she's discussed it with Tribe privately StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #4
He's gotten feedback from experienced politicos though, so I don't think he's speaking through a hlthe2b Jun 2019 #5
Sure - I'm not saying his political view isn't well-founded. As I said, he has a lot of political StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #7
"political ramifications" ?? It is SO not about Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #26
Litman and Tribe were just on MSNBC's "All In". BigmanPigman Jun 2019 #2
Tribe was on MSNBC just a few minutes ago. The way he explained his idea was not for the House napi21 Jun 2019 #3
It is more than censure though. It would be full investigational hearings resulting in "findings" hlthe2b Jun 2019 #6
Which will never happen FBaggins Jun 2019 #9
House Republicans are not in control. hlthe2b Jun 2019 #10
In this case, neither are House Democrats FBaggins Jun 2019 #13
In fact they can. If you know more than Laurence Tribe, Neal Katayal,, Norm Eisen, hlthe2b Jun 2019 #16
Laughable FBaggins Jun 2019 #20
still waiting for those creds... hlthe2b Jun 2019 #21
" doesn't fit nicely within any of Congress's Article I powers." FBaggins Jun 2019 #24
Article 1 powers. PERIOD. hlthe2b Jun 2019 #25
Such an odd argument FBaggins Jun 2019 #27
No. You are not worth my time. hlthe2b Jun 2019 #28
Contradicted by your compulsive need to reply FBaggins Jun 2019 #32
Hmmm FBaggins says they can't do it; Tribe says they can. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2019 #17
LOL... Gee, ya think? hlthe2b Jun 2019 #22
No... Tribe doesn't say they can FBaggins Jun 2019 #23
He absolutely says they can. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2019 #34
This path seems to frighten some here. nt Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #38
So, we'll be satisfied with just hurting his feelings? FiveGoodMen Jun 2019 #45
Do our Dem leaders in the House know this? Why haven't they mentioned this before? Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #8
What would a "Sense of the House" mean to the general public? Martin Eden Jun 2019 #11
They complete the process they can decide then whether to refer articles of impeachment... hlthe2b Jun 2019 #12
A conclusion of guilt demands impeachment Martin Eden Jun 2019 #15
The opinion piece has been posted her numerous times. You need to read it hlthe2b Jun 2019 #18
This process would bring everything out, plus Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2019 #19
Wouldn't that be equally apparent if the House impeached and the Senate acquitted? onenote Jun 2019 #31
Sure, but the House doesn't need to give the Senate the chance to acquit. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2019 #35
Which will simply allow the repubs to change the subject from the findings to the failure to follow onenote Jun 2019 #37
Agreed. onenote Jun 2019 #30
Love this line Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #14
K & R Duppers Jun 2019 #29
The most important thing is to get National MSM coverage. Ligyron Jun 2019 #33
I can honestly think of nothing worse than the house making the case hughee99 Jun 2019 #36
that's the point of this path Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #39
If you want it to be as open and public as possible, you send the charges to the Senate and have an hughee99 Jun 2019 #40
The House would impeach. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2019 #41
If the house doesn't bring charges to the senate, hughee99 Jun 2019 #42
Yes. The House impeaches regardless of what the Senate does. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2019 #43
That's not exactly what Tribe is recommending... hughee99 Jun 2019 #44
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