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7. It's Been The Way Lately

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 02:51 PM

Jun 2019

with the so-called pundits, journalists, hosts so on and so forth. They seemingly don't understand that they are not helping by criticizing the Dems 24/7 and are in fact aiding and abetting for another four of the horror in the WH. THey did this to HRC and look where it got us. What was it Michelle Goldberg recently applied to the Dems...craven & cowardly. Good work Ms. Goldberg, invite into our very lives the very thing you say you are against.

How crazy has it gotten? I saw a young woman named Alexi on Nicole Wallace's show kick the Dems saying they were afraid to impeach because the Senate wouldn't convict and then in the very next sentence she kicked them for spending/wasting time passing legislation that they knew the Senate wouldn't pass.

How about we start wholeheartedly supporting our side, what could it possibly hurt?

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Why the Skittish Caucus is so Skittish About Impeachment. [View all] kennetha Jun 2019 OP

It is my opinion trev Jun 2019 #1

We have no expectations for "the base." In them America Hortensis Jun 2019 #6

Agree! mountain grammy Jun 2019 #50

If they don't impeach, we will lose the house next year and likely, the Presidency! Meadowoak Jun 2019 #2

And that prediction is based on what? Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #29

what happens when we don't push for our values and policies? shanny Jun 2019 #51

Yet in 2007 Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #55

link? on the prediction--who and when? shanny Jun 2019 #57

Look back in the DU archives Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #59

Don't forget the stock market crash, it's hard to say how we would Meadowoak Jun 2019 #61

Obama was leading before the crash nt Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #64

EXACTLY ...... LenaBaby61 Jun 2019 #62

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2019 #80

Based on the fact that a lot of us will stay home. We sent Democrats Meadowoak Jun 2019 #54

Anyone that stays home in 20 Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #56

So you won't vote for Democrats in 2020 if there is no impeachment? ehrnst Jun 2019 #81

If I vote, it would be for Democrats. But unless there is impeachment Meadowoak Jun 2019 #124

If you vote? sheshe2 Jun 2019 #128

Voting isn't a soccer match StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #131

Skittish, Stalling, Dithering Me. Jun 2019 #3

I trust Democratic leadership. lapucelle Jun 2019 #5

It's Been The Way Lately Me. Jun 2019 #7

Amen wryter2000 Jun 2019 #110

Also, We Need To Make The Case Me. Jun 2019 #114

Softball insults, but insults nonetheless. ehrnst Jun 2019 #82

And Incorrect To Boot Me. Jun 2019 #84

Attacking scapegoats is easier than dealing with one's own anxiety head on. ehrnst Jun 2019 #85

Great point! StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #87

It Was Interesting Watching HOward Dean With Chris Hayes Me. Jun 2019 #89

Chris was clearly emotional. It can be a problem with men who don't deal ehrnst Jun 2019 #98

I Mostly Agree With You Me. Jun 2019 #99

True this. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2019 #100

And Stephanie Miller wryter2000 Jun 2019 #113

... Me. Jun 2019 #115

You nailed it! wryter2000 Jun 2019 #112

National support for impeachment hearings risen to 27%! Hortensis Jun 2019 #4

Nice, fine line. Protect the Constitution by winning. Like that. empedocles Jun 2019 #10

Please remember customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #101

The legislation is part of our 2020 platform, to include marylandblue Jun 2019 #105

It's true customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #130

I'm with Nancy redstateblues Jun 2019 #9

As if Trump controls the narrative kennetha Jun 2019 #12

Unfortunately, a lot of people care what Trump says. marylandblue Jun 2019 #30

Well, democrats can fight back. they don't HAVE to SURRENDER the narrative to Trump or Fox News kennetha Jun 2019 #40

Who is "surrendering the narrative?" You think Democrats should be on FoxNews? ehrnst Jun 2019 #67

Begin impeachment now kennetha Jun 2019 #69

What if the timing isn't right? (nt) ehrnst Jun 2019 #70

No time like the present. kennetha Jun 2019 #74

So timing is a non-issue? ehrnst Jun 2019 #75

And when Trump shoots back that Democrats are the traitors marylandblue Jun 2019 #104

Doesn't he get to throw that party too Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #16

What are you talking about? The House has dozens of investigations going on. ehrnst Jun 2019 #76

They're refusing (at least so far) to start holding impeachment inquiries Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #117

Without 20 GOP Senate votes, impeachment is not going to work Gothmog Jun 2019 #11

Make the Republicans stand up and be counted kennetha Jun 2019 #13

And risk losing 40 moderate seats that gave the Democrats control of the House? Gothmog Jun 2019 #17

Yup, several seats in PA could easily be at risk if we hypermotivate the right Amishman Jun 2019 #26

Are you speculating we could lose all 40 seats in the House? Or maybe 15, 10, 7, 5? Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #34

I trust Speaker Pelosi Gothmog Jun 2019 #36

Every single Democrat in the House is and will be targeted by the GOP, with or without impeachment, Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #45

How are you going to get 20 GOP senators to vote for removal? Gothmog Jun 2019 #46

As i stated in my post, Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #48

If trump is able to claim vindication by being found not guilty by the GOP senate, he could win Gothmog Jun 2019 #52

You have taken a stance that should Repubs not remove, Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #58

This is also the same stance being taken by Speaker Pelosi Gothmog Jun 2019 #60

Again, that is just your speculation... Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #108

Your scenarios are also just speculation. ehrnst Jun 2019 #116

Well, you got one of your sentences correct! What I think will happen if we pursue Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #120

I got all my sentences right, thanks. ehrnst Jun 2019 #134

Yes you were right Gothmog Jun 2019 #135

I like living in the real world and working on real campaigns Gothmog Jun 2019 #118

Just curious where you're getting that only 27% of people support impeachment? Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #119

This was covered heavily on MSNBC Gothmog Jun 2019 #121

Ok, thanks. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #122

This is a 10% increase over the prior polling on this issue Gothmog Jun 2019 #123

I like working on real campaigns as well! Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #125

In the real world, you need 20 GOP Senators to vote to remove Gothmog Jun 2019 #127

CNN poll last week showed 79% of Democrats want Impeachment proceedings. Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #129

I am a lawyer in the real world Gothmog Jun 2019 #132

Oh goodness! Now you implying that we will lose the majority in the House, not have a Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #137

We are fortunate that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are calling the shots here Gothmog Jun 2019 #138

Can you post a link to that poll? Because this one from June 8 says otherwise. ehrnst Jun 2019 #133

Sure can. Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #136

Flowers and Candy? Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #53

Yes, every path has risks to it, just like in war. marylandblue Jun 2019 #109

I think they would jump up and wave their arms fescuerescue Jun 2019 #28

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2019 #91

Senate is not needed to hurt Red Don politically and follow constitution uponit7771 Jun 2019 #14

It takes 20 GOP votes to remove trump and without these votes, trump will claim vindication Gothmog Jun 2019 #18

Trump will claim vindication no matter what dems do and to hurt Red Don and KGOP ... uponit7771 Jun 2019 #37

So you've talked to her about her "sole reason" that she "fears" impeachment? ehrnst Jun 2019 #15

IT's an inference from things she says and a little common sense. kennetha Jun 2019 #19

So, it's a guess, influenced by your feelings about her. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2019 #21

I have no particular "feelings" about her kennetha Jun 2019 #23

Your guess as to her motives is based in large part on your judgement of her. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2019 #24

Observation and judgment... that's all anybody ever has. kennetha Jun 2019 #25

Actually, no. One can have someone's statement, or confirmation of their motives or reasoning. ehrnst Jun 2019 #66

I use the word skittish because that's what I observe kennetha Jun 2019 #68

Skittish is a demeaning term. ehrnst Jun 2019 #71

It's a descriptive term. kennetha Jun 2019 #73

Yes, it describes someone in a demeaning way. ehrnst Jun 2019 #77

There seems to be a fear ... BigOleDummy Jun 2019 #20

Timing also figures into doing the right thing, or else we might end up worse off ehrnst Jun 2019 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #27

Will you or anyone you know vote differently in 2020 because of Pelosi's actions? marylandblue Jun 2019 #31

They might. Especially marginal democrats, who sit out many elections unless strongly aroused. kennetha Jun 2019 #39

Marginal democrats? ehrnst Jun 2019 #92

No I mean people who only lightly identify as democrats and are open to voting Republican. kennetha Jun 2019 #93

I mean like post #53 in this thread. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2019 #95

So people who are open to voting Republican want him impeached? marylandblue Jun 2019 #106

We didn't win the House because of the Trump base... brooklynite Jun 2019 #32

This is true. But... kennetha Jun 2019 #38

It not a matter of fear of Trump... brooklynite Jun 2019 #44

Are you sure that voters don't care about democracy and the rule of law? kennetha Jun 2019 #47

That's a pretty big straw man you're attacking there. ehrnst Jun 2019 #78

It seems that a favorite put down of yours is to paint someone who ehrnst Jun 2019 #94

You're funny, In a sad sort of way. kennetha Jun 2019 #96

Nailed it, didn't I? ehrnst Jun 2019 #97

Right Sudsy Jun 2019 #33

Democrats didn't lose in 2010 because they reached across the aisle StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #41

I think she is not impeaching him because that is the correct way to marylandblue Jun 2019 #35

I say they should try to Crush Trump in just the way you did with your narcissist. kennetha Jun 2019 #42

Unfortunately, that's not possible. marylandblue Jun 2019 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #102

You misunderstand me, I was talking about convicting in the Senate. marylandblue Jun 2019 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #107

Yeah I've been back and forthing too, yet here we are. marylandblue Jun 2019 #111

Astute analysis StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #43

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2019 #90

No impeachment, no white house and no senate. warmfeet Jun 2019 #63

NOT the sole reason. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #65

So, basically Pelosi and Congress are "skittish" weak and cowardly because you want impeachment NOW. ehrnst Jun 2019 #72

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #79

Did you find a sale on strawmen and false dillema fallacies? ehrnst Jun 2019 #83

You're the one attributing some kind of unimpeachable wisdom kennetha Jun 2019 #86

And another straw man/false dillema combo.... ehrnst Jun 2019 #88

+1000 Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #126