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Blue_Tires

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90. The funny part is I read a compelling, detailed argument 7-8 years ago

Mon Jun 17, 2019, 04:10 PM

Jun 2019

from some defense think-tank that we could get rid of the Regular Air Force and the Army (but keep their National Guard components) and just increase the size of the Marines... (Long story short: The USMC's mobility, fighting versatility and synergy with the Navy made them superior and vastly more efficient.)

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The F-35 is a piece of shit, [View all] watoos Jun 2019 OP

A former great contributor to DU use to post this picture of the F-35-a pic is worth a trillion $s. TexasProgresive Jun 2019 #1

The cost keeps increasing watoos Jun 2019 #5

unhappycamper, I think JHB Jun 2019 #34

That's right, thanks TexasProgresive Jun 2019 #39

Yep. Ghost Dog Jun 2019 #53

Should have just bought the Eurofighter instead. Gumboot Jun 2019 #2

Along with the other support and maintenance contracts...and contractors. Ford_Prefect Jun 2019 #3

Would have been cheaper to bomb the enemy with bales of cash, crushing them. lagomorph777 Jun 2019 #35

Yep. Eurofighter Typhoon is the world's most advanced swing-role combat aircraft: Ghost Dog Jun 2019 #54

A double delta, of sorts, but not a swing wing like the F-14 Tomcat. machoneman Jun 2019 #88

Swing role, a clumsy expression, they say, not swing-wing. Ghost Dog Jun 2019 #91

Defense spending is the "third rail" of American politics...touch it and you die sop Jun 2019 #4

agreed - I remember in the early days of the F-35 NewJeffCT Jun 2019 #8

Yes. Blue_true Jun 2019 #43

Carthage. Ghost Dog Jun 2019 #58

Was there corruption or avarice in Carthage? Blue_true Jun 2019 #62

From my reading of the history... yes, but Ghost Dog Jun 2019 #64

Yugos had a better safeinOhio Jun 2019 #6

Post of the day, brilliant. watoos Jun 2019 #11

I had a friend who bought a brand new Yugo ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #27

Really? jberryhill Jun 2019 #30

He also had an old VW Bug ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #32

With the heating ducts under the running boards, they always rusted out anyway. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2019 #36

big bucks to fix is the plan NewJeffCT Jun 2019 #7

every time i hear about this plane, i think about this movie- mopinko Jun 2019 #9

I think RoboCop "Who cares if it works" and The Deal of the Century. TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #10

It was about the Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle. Aristus Jun 2019 #20

my bad. thx. mopinko Jun 2019 #24

were you part of the hail mary? mopinko Jun 2019 #25

My unit didn't actually serve in combat. Aristus Jun 2019 #26

This entire method of warfare is obsolete. hunter Jun 2019 #12

They are effective against less sophisticated enemy. Blue_true Jun 2019 #48

Who would that less sophisticated enemy be? In modern aerial warfare meat is obsolete. hunter Jun 2019 #67

I am not disagreeing with you. Blue_true Jun 2019 #68

What air war edhopper Jun 2019 #13

None. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2019 #45

In all fairness, the air force version of the F-35A seems OK Rollo Jun 2019 #14

The Air Force knows. hunter Jun 2019 #44

My brother test piloted the air force F-35 and was supposed to be flying it. He was previously smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #56

one independent northeast us senator is a big fan of funding the f35 nt msongs Jun 2019 #15

They seem to be doing well in combat hack89 Jun 2019 #16

US forces have engaged in air combat using F-35's? mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #31

They have been flying in Syria as have the Israeli air force hack89 Jun 2019 #33

So winning an air war against the C team count for something now? Blue_true Jun 2019 #49

There has been zero air-to-air combat over Syria. n/t Ghost Dog Jun 2019 #61

We haven't fought the A team since Korea hack89 Jun 2019 #72

We have fought a low of low tech people that fought us to a standstill, Blue_true Jun 2019 #73

Desert Storm and the invasion of Iraq in 2003 say otherwise hack89 Jun 2019 #74

Yes, but then we lost thousands of troops to a low tech insurgency. Blue_true Jun 2019 #82

But our casualties have been remarkably low compared to other wars hack89 Jun 2019 #83

Your point at the end captured the essence. Blue_true Jun 2019 #85

Yeah but look at all the money the defense contractors have made. lpbk2713 Jun 2019 #17

And their shareholders. That is indeed most of the point. Ghost Dog Jun 2019 #63

Our Glorious Supreme Leader tells us the F-35 is invisible.... Brother Buzz Jun 2019 #18

it's feature, not a bug. KG Jun 2019 #19

Flies at $45,000 an hour Kid Berwyn Jun 2019 #21

I'm stealing that. shanny Jun 2019 #38

Thank you! Feel free to steal. That's what Xi said. Kid Berwyn Jun 2019 #41

Send 10,000 kids to college for that. n/t Ghost Dog Jun 2019 #65

I don't really care about whether it's a POS or not. We'll blow money regardless. maxsolomon Jun 2019 #22

+1, at this point they seem like "Maginot" devices. The real fight is happening ... uponit7771 Jun 2019 #29

I know, tell me about it. Mine has gone to shit. Hotler Jun 2019 #23

*snicker* smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #57

This is the part that gets me ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #28

The builders could change the metal used for the tail, or develop a different, Blue_true Jun 2019 #51

Because you're programmed not to want, you know, intelligent, coordinated planning, Ghost Dog Jun 2019 #66

No lie. shanny Jun 2019 #37

Our defense budget needs to be cut by 75% Calculating Jun 2019 #40

Have they taught it to fly in bad weather yet? Blue_true Jun 2019 #42

Pretty funny (sad) when you look at it. blugbox Jun 2019 #46

F-35: What The Pilots Say Baclava Jun 2019 #47

Bombing the taliban and penetrating Syrian air defenses is not the same Blue_true Jun 2019 #52

Why do US governments want to attack the Chinese or Russian mainlands? Ghost Dog Jun 2019 #69

It was not me that mentioned penetrating sophisticated air defenses. Blue_true Jun 2019 #70

Sure, Blue_true! (And this conversation much appreciated!) Ghost Dog Jun 2019 #71

It's like they purposefully try to make decisions that will piss everyone off. Initech Jun 2019 #50

Good thing it's invisible dalton99a Jun 2019 #55

Why the hell would Poland want to buy these planes if they're so problematic? cwydro Jun 2019 #59

The planning for the manufacture of the F-35 was ingenious. They spread the jobs around many, many keithbvadu2 Jun 2019 #60

Kick ck4829 Jun 2019 #75

Who the fuck cares? KentuckyWoman Jun 2019 #76

Where the F' are the great engineers that used to design and build this stuff. democratisphere Jun 2019 #77

Retired ? CentralMass Jun 2019 #78

Yes. Retired or dead with only total incompetence to replace them. democratisphere Jun 2019 #79

With a five-time Draft Dodger running the republican shit show Achilleaze Jun 2019 #80

All new weapons systems have issues DeminPennswoods Jun 2019 #81

Chinese co. making circuit boards. moondust Jun 2019 #84

Likely the reason Vermont groups are telling Sanders to scrap putting it in Winooski ehrnst Jun 2019 #86

They never should have made it a three-service jet Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #87

If anyone asks me, the Air Force was a stupid idea. hunter Jun 2019 #89

The funny part is I read a compelling, detailed argument 7-8 years ago Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #90