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In reply to the discussion: E. Jean Carroll: "Trump attacked me in the dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman." [View all]progressoid
(52,481 posts)62. It's in the article.
Did I tell anyone about it?
Yes. I told two close friends. The first, a journalist, magazine writer, correspondent on the TV morning shows, author of many books, etc., begged me to go to the police.
He raped you, she kept repeating when I called her. He raped you. Go to the police! Ill go with you. Well go together.
My second friend is also a journalist, a New York anchorwoman. She grew very quiet when I told her, then she grasped both my hands in her own and said, Tell no one. Forget it! He has 200 lawyers. Hell bury you. (Two decades later, both still remember the incident clearly and confirmed their accounts to New York.)
Do I have photos or any visual evidence?
Bergdorfs security cameras must have picked us up at the 58th Street entrance of the store. We would have been filmed on the ground floor in the bags-and-hats sections. Cameras also must have captured us going up the escalator and into the lingerie department. New York law at the time did not explicitly prohibit security cameras in dressing rooms to prevent theft. But even if it had been captured on tape, depending on the position of the camera, it would be very difficult to see the man unzipping his pants, because he was wearing a topcoat. The struggle might simply have read as sexy. The speculation is moot, anyway: The department store has confirmed that it no longer has tapes from that time.
Why were there no sales attendants in the lingerie department?
Bergdorf Goodmans perfections are so well known it is a store so noble, so clubby, so posh that it is almost easier to accept the fact that I was attacked than the fact that, for a very brief period, there was no sales attendant in the lingerie department. Inconceivable is the word. Sometimes a person wont find a sales attendant in Saks, its true; sometimes one has to look for a sales associate in Barneys, Bloomingdales, or even Tiffanys; but 99 percent of the time, you will have an attendant in Bergdorfs. All I can say is I did not, in this fleeting episode, see an attendant. And the other odd thing is that a dressing-room door was open. In Bergdorfs dressing rooms, doors are usually locked until a client wants to try something on.
Why havent I come forward before now?
Receiving death threats, being driven from my home, being dismissed, being dragged through the mud, and joining the 15 women whove come forward with credible stories about how the man grabbed, badgered, belittled, mauled, molested, and assaulted them, only to see the man turn it around, deny, threaten, and attack them, never sounded like much fun. Also, I am a coward.
Yes. I told two close friends. The first, a journalist, magazine writer, correspondent on the TV morning shows, author of many books, etc., begged me to go to the police.
He raped you, she kept repeating when I called her. He raped you. Go to the police! Ill go with you. Well go together.
My second friend is also a journalist, a New York anchorwoman. She grew very quiet when I told her, then she grasped both my hands in her own and said, Tell no one. Forget it! He has 200 lawyers. Hell bury you. (Two decades later, both still remember the incident clearly and confirmed their accounts to New York.)
Do I have photos or any visual evidence?
Bergdorfs security cameras must have picked us up at the 58th Street entrance of the store. We would have been filmed on the ground floor in the bags-and-hats sections. Cameras also must have captured us going up the escalator and into the lingerie department. New York law at the time did not explicitly prohibit security cameras in dressing rooms to prevent theft. But even if it had been captured on tape, depending on the position of the camera, it would be very difficult to see the man unzipping his pants, because he was wearing a topcoat. The struggle might simply have read as sexy. The speculation is moot, anyway: The department store has confirmed that it no longer has tapes from that time.
Why were there no sales attendants in the lingerie department?
Bergdorf Goodmans perfections are so well known it is a store so noble, so clubby, so posh that it is almost easier to accept the fact that I was attacked than the fact that, for a very brief period, there was no sales attendant in the lingerie department. Inconceivable is the word. Sometimes a person wont find a sales attendant in Saks, its true; sometimes one has to look for a sales associate in Barneys, Bloomingdales, or even Tiffanys; but 99 percent of the time, you will have an attendant in Bergdorfs. All I can say is I did not, in this fleeting episode, see an attendant. And the other odd thing is that a dressing-room door was open. In Bergdorfs dressing rooms, doors are usually locked until a client wants to try something on.
Why havent I come forward before now?
Receiving death threats, being driven from my home, being dismissed, being dragged through the mud, and joining the 15 women whove come forward with credible stories about how the man grabbed, badgered, belittled, mauled, molested, and assaulted them, only to see the man turn it around, deny, threaten, and attack them, never sounded like much fun. Also, I am a coward.
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OP
Watch it. He'll attack her claims by saying she was too old for his taste.
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i don't think that's right. She was in the midst of describing a traumatic experience...
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Gonna have to agree here, jumping on the bandwagon on these kind of allegations hurts us
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