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(54,790 posts)35. A compromised Rump is allowing Russia to go wild with S-400 sales
U.S. redoubles sanctions threat over S-400 as Erdogan vows retaliation
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-usa-security-erdogan/us-redoubles-sanctions-threat-over-s-400-as-erdogan-vows-retaliation-idUSKCN1TL1F8
ISTANBUL/BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The U.S. government on Thursday said economic sanctions over Turkeys planned purchase of a Russian missile defense system remained a very viable option, even as Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan vowed to retaliate if that occurred.
U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Political-Military Affairs Clarke Cooper told reporters on a teleconference that the United States and other NATO allies remained in discussions with Turkey about resolving the dispute.
Seeking resolution is still within the realm of possible today, but imposition of sanctions remains a course of action and a very viable one at this point, Cooper said during a visit to Brussels, where NATO is headquartered.
In Istanbul, Erdogan, speaking at a rare news conference for foreign media, repeated that the purchase of Russian S-400 systems was a done deal and said the United States should think carefully before imposing sanctions on a NATO member.
I do not see any possibility of these sanctions happening, Erdogan said. However, if they did, we will have sanctions of our own.
Washington has repeatedly threatened to impose sanctions unless Ankara backs down from the S-400 purchase. Erdogan said the delivery of the system would start in the first half of July.
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US Warns India Over S-400 Air Defense System Deal With Russia
A senior U.S. diplomat warned India over procuring S-400 air defense systems from Russia in a recent congressional testimony.
https://thediplomat.com/2019/06/us-warns-india-over-s-400-air-defense-system-deal-with-russia/
A senior U.S. diplomat in a recent congressional testimony expressed deep concerns over Indias decision to procure five squadrons of Russian-made Almaz-Antei S-400 Triumf air defense systems (NATO reporting name: SA-21 Growler) for service in the Indian Air Force (IAF).
U.S. Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for South and Central Asia Alice Wells said in an official testimony before the U.S. House of Representatives House Foreign Affairs subcommittee on June 13 that the purchase of the S-400 defense systems could limit burgeoning India-U.S. military relations.
The induction of the new long-range air defense systems effectively could limit Indias ability to increase our own interoperability, according to Wells, adding that the United States has serious concerns about the long-term strategic implications of the purchase for U.S.-India ties. At a certain point, a strategic choice has to be made about partnerships and a strategic choice about what weapons systems and platforms a country is going to adopt, Wells said.
India and Russia signed a $5 billion contract for the procurement of five S-400 squadrons during last years annual bilateral summit held in New Delhi in early October. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin presided over the signing ceremony. The first S-400 squadron is expected to be stood up by the fall of 2020.
The Modi government has persisted in its decision to purchase the Russian-made S-400s despite strong opposition from the United States and the possible imposition of economic sanctions on India under U.S. legislation known as the Countering Americas Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA). The legislation seeks to economically and financially punish countries engaging in significant transactionsdefined as any deals above $15 millionwith the Russian state-owned defense industry.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-usa-security-erdogan/us-redoubles-sanctions-threat-over-s-400-as-erdogan-vows-retaliation-idUSKCN1TL1F8
ISTANBUL/BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The U.S. government on Thursday said economic sanctions over Turkeys planned purchase of a Russian missile defense system remained a very viable option, even as Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan vowed to retaliate if that occurred.
U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Political-Military Affairs Clarke Cooper told reporters on a teleconference that the United States and other NATO allies remained in discussions with Turkey about resolving the dispute.
Seeking resolution is still within the realm of possible today, but imposition of sanctions remains a course of action and a very viable one at this point, Cooper said during a visit to Brussels, where NATO is headquartered.
In Istanbul, Erdogan, speaking at a rare news conference for foreign media, repeated that the purchase of Russian S-400 systems was a done deal and said the United States should think carefully before imposing sanctions on a NATO member.
I do not see any possibility of these sanctions happening, Erdogan said. However, if they did, we will have sanctions of our own.
Washington has repeatedly threatened to impose sanctions unless Ankara backs down from the S-400 purchase. Erdogan said the delivery of the system would start in the first half of July.
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US Warns India Over S-400 Air Defense System Deal With Russia
A senior U.S. diplomat warned India over procuring S-400 air defense systems from Russia in a recent congressional testimony.
https://thediplomat.com/2019/06/us-warns-india-over-s-400-air-defense-system-deal-with-russia/
A senior U.S. diplomat in a recent congressional testimony expressed deep concerns over Indias decision to procure five squadrons of Russian-made Almaz-Antei S-400 Triumf air defense systems (NATO reporting name: SA-21 Growler) for service in the Indian Air Force (IAF).
U.S. Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for South and Central Asia Alice Wells said in an official testimony before the U.S. House of Representatives House Foreign Affairs subcommittee on June 13 that the purchase of the S-400 defense systems could limit burgeoning India-U.S. military relations.
The induction of the new long-range air defense systems effectively could limit Indias ability to increase our own interoperability, according to Wells, adding that the United States has serious concerns about the long-term strategic implications of the purchase for U.S.-India ties. At a certain point, a strategic choice has to be made about partnerships and a strategic choice about what weapons systems and platforms a country is going to adopt, Wells said.
India and Russia signed a $5 billion contract for the procurement of five S-400 squadrons during last years annual bilateral summit held in New Delhi in early October. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin presided over the signing ceremony. The first S-400 squadron is expected to be stood up by the fall of 2020.
The Modi government has persisted in its decision to purchase the Russian-made S-400s despite strong opposition from the United States and the possible imposition of economic sanctions on India under U.S. legislation known as the Countering Americas Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA). The legislation seeks to economically and financially punish countries engaging in significant transactionsdefined as any deals above $15 millionwith the Russian state-owned defense industry.
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thank you... I just wanted it clarified. Acronyms like this are really not helpful.
hlthe2b
Jun 2019
#3
"noone could have imagined that the terrorists would fly planes into buildings"
Maine-i-acs
Jun 2019
#8
August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing: bin Laden determined to strike inside the US
Maine-i-acs
Jun 2019
#25
Heck, there were novels and movies about that scenario. It was actually well anticipated. nt
eppur_se_muova
Jun 2019
#34
Despite the "training exercise" taking place that very morning for that exact scenario.
trev
Jun 2019
#17
one suspects drones are not particularly fast compared to a missile so when a drone attacks Iran
msongs
Jun 2019
#7
Sounds about right. Iran had been a Middle East leader in education and innovation...
TreasonousBastard
Jun 2019
#12
Drones aren't particularly stealthy, maneuverable, or equipped with countermeasures
jberryhill
Jun 2019
#19