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GulfCoast66

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156. When your first response is to attack my grammar,

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:17 PM

Jun 2019

The rest of your argument is diminished.

I made a response to your post with an argument that disagrees with your premise. So we disagree. I respect your position but think strategically it is a dead end. So I don’t believe it is the right thing to to since it does not advance the interest of the Democratic Party. Hardly a dishonorable position. Just different from yours.

I am aware I used a vernacular in my response.

I would enjoy a discussion about how a failed impeachment helps the cause of the Democratic Party. Cause I don’t see it.

If you want to start our conversation about picayune issues like my grammar we will go nowhere.

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I'm heart sick over Speaker Pelosi's decision to not act. [View all] jaysunb Jun 2019 OP

She's counting on big money from the donor class to reelect and add dems to congress. Kurt V. Jun 2019 #1

You know this how? Control-Z Jun 2019 #70

come on now.... samnsara Jun 2019 #106

Without any backup, this is just a demonstration of your feels about Nancy. ehrnst Jun 2019 #113

i only have 1 source atm so it's thin but yeah I'm not too happy with her. Kurt V. Jun 2019 #124

What source is that? You stated that her "hands are tied" by big donors. ehrnst Jun 2019 #130

Source was the wrong word. its an old friend from when we were doing political fundraising Kurt V. Jun 2019 #154

So how would your friend hear about these alleged "big donors" who "tied Pelosi's hands?" ehrnst Jun 2019 #161

Poorly worded on my part. by we, i mean society in general. the fundraisers, bundlers, industry Kurt V. Jun 2019 #162

So, there is no real evidence that Pelosi's "hands are tied by big donors" ehrnst Jun 2019 #163

i just gave you the evidence I'm hearing. what the heck? Kurt V. Jun 2019 #164

What evidence? ehrnst Jun 2019 #167

lol stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #126

Mmmhmm. Codeine Jun 2019 #141

Agreed. Snackshack Jun 2019 #2

It can't stand. Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #3

"How dare Pelosi consider the politics of impeachment when 67 percent of people support it" StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #5

well, that remark is yours, not mine. Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #15

Huh? Incongruent? Pot:kettle? Projection? KPN Jun 2019 #41

In fact Schiff and Pelosi chose specifically not to be political Nuggets Jun 2019 #54

Not to be political?.... She is a fucking "politician" world wide wally Jun 2019 #78

damn straight Skittles Jun 2019 #98

Impeachment is a political process, not a criminal or judicial one, therefore ehrnst Jun 2019 #112

Only 70 of 235 Democratic House members support Impeachment. Caliman73 Jun 2019 #4

that's a false choice. Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #9

I'd bet Speaker Pelosi would love to have the kind of power you think she does StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #11

ridiculous straw man. Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #17

On the one hand you tell us, she has all the power and is playing the strategic game. cwydro Jun 2019 #30

When have I ever said "she has all the power"? StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #39

You and your ally here continually say she is playing the long game, knows what she's doing, cwydro Jun 2019 #44

Not an answer StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #59

You should be able to recognize that quite well. cwydro Jun 2019 #100

Well. sheshe2 Jun 2019 #85

Great post, sheshe2. Thank you. spooky3 Jun 2019 #128

I thank you, spooky. sheshe2 Jun 2019 #138

You researched and pointed out compelling facts. spooky3 Jun 2019 #142

Guess what. sheshe2 Jun 2019 #155

You'll need to call me an ally as well wryter2000 Jun 2019 #146

Thank you so much. sheshe2 Jun 2019 #150

As they move, she will move. That is the process that has to happen. Caliman73 Jun 2019 #12

yep Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #18

Exactly. KPN Jun 2019 #43

+1 leftstreet Jun 2019 #47

Exactly. triron Jun 2019 #94

She needs 218, not 157. She's not holding them hostage, pnwmom Jun 2019 #99

True dat!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #152

Pelosi will be "holding the will of the majority of the Democratic party hostage?" ehrnst Jun 2019 #166

70 have vocalized support. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #38

She's exerted her power to undermine any Pro-Impeachment movement in the House. So, Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #40

Bingo. And I generally like Pelosi a lot. KPN Jun 2019 #45

I wonder where she stands on the fact that she never impeached Dubya -- diva77 Jun 2019 #93

"Undermine?" She knows better than either you or I about what needs to be in place ehrnst Jun 2019 #116

Several Dems have been interviewed by Lawrence O'Donnell and NONE spooky3 Jun 2019 #140

If you read the article link I posted, it clearly says many are afraid to call Pelosi out by name or Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #160

"It is a command that colleagues say is drawn from a deep well of respect for the political wisdom ehrnst Jun 2019 #165

I like AOC orangecrush Jun 2019 #6

Our voices have bdamomma Jun 2019 #7

Some of us have been calling -- including Pelosi's KPN Jun 2019 #49

Perhaps it's about timing. Why do you think that Pelosi either ehrnst Jun 2019 #114

Pretty simple. She's putting p[olitical calculations first. KPN Jun 2019 #131

If she were putting "political calculations first" wouldn't she be driving toward impeachment StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #132

No, that's simple math. KPN Jun 2019 #133

Doing what the majority of Democrats want is a political calculation StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #135

Politics is how we get rid of Trump. wryter2000 Jun 2019 #147

Go find US Senators for her. Easy IADEMO2004 Jun 2019 #8

not necessary Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #13

This. nt trev Jun 2019 #82

"...preeminent legal experts recommend the FIRST step..." eom sprinkleeninow Jun 2019 #95

Irrelevant. Just do the right thing. Stand KPN Jun 2019 #50

You think timing has no place in that decision? ehrnst Jun 2019 #117

Today, there was a list of pieces of legislation the Dem House has passed and the GOP (McConnell) world wide wally Jun 2019 #81

We speak November 2020. If we GOTV, the Racist-in-Chief is gone. Hoyt Jun 2019 #10

oh please Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #14

BS. We won in 2008, 2012, special elections, 2018. Vote. Hoyt Jun 2019 #16

Exactly! Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #22

And won BIG in '18 oldsoftie Jun 2019 #139

We can win. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #20

I really believe that. We did a poor job responding to Ruskies, Comey, trump lies, etc. Hoyt Jun 2019 #23

Yes, we'll be much more prepared this time. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #24

It's kind of amazing how many people have forgotten the midterms already. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #32

They haven't forgotten it, it's just not conducive to their argument bearsfootball516 Jun 2019 #42

We didn't win the Senate and Russia hacked Florida uponit7771 Jun 2019 #91

Yes, it's naive to put all our eggs in the basket re the2020 election because of the reason Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #46

Hey, Grasswire... sheshe2 Jun 2019 #66

You are spoiling a "sky is falling" feeding frenzy with facts. ehrnst Jun 2019 #120

Ooopsie. sheshe2 Jun 2019 #136

"NOTHING IS BEING DONE!!!" Oh please.... ehrnst Jun 2019 #119

+ one zillion! sheshe2 Jun 2019 #137

So, the election won't get him out of office. wryter2000 Jun 2019 #148

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #19

Impeaching him will not remove him. We will still have to vote him out. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #48

Even if it DID remove him, radical noodle Jun 2019 #63

Gawd no. And he would pardon Trump. GOTV. nt emmaverybo Jun 2019 #84

1000% radical noodle Jun 2019 #86

CALL HER!!! citizen blues Jun 2019 #21

Did this and done that months ago! BigmanPigman Jun 2019 #73

It would be more effective for you to call your Rep and Senators StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #76

Actually, your rep is the person to call. She answers to them as Speaker. ehrnst Jun 2019 #121

Maybe I'm naive? Trueblue Texan Jun 2019 #25

I think you're right that Nance knows exactly what she's doing. If we put all our efforts into napi21 Jun 2019 #33

"Nance"? ProfessorPlum Jun 2019 #111

Yes, Nance as in Nancy Pelosi. geesh n/t napi21 Jun 2019 #168

Remember Bush W's war crimes? Jack-o-Lantern Jun 2019 #26

Pelosi's Decision Not to Act Isn't Permanent dlk Jun 2019 #27

Second guessing the highest ranking ELECTED woman NoMoreRepugs Jun 2019 #28

We didn't get to vote Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #101

Dem reps did, because they know what it takes to lead ehrnst Jun 2019 #115

I think she definitely has strengths of supporting Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #122

What she said!!! Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #125

And here I thought it was our country FiveGoodMen Jun 2019 #149

Yes. cwydro Jun 2019 #29

Attempting to impeach trump just gives him ammo to say "they've been after me for 4 yrs" oldsoftie Jun 2019 #31

And if he isn't he'll say it was a witch hunt. Televised Inquiry, now. The moment is slipping away Cetacea Jun 2019 #34

We have to deal with the facts as they are even if we dont like them. Pelosi is doing that. oldsoftie Jun 2019 #71

That's why I agree with the idea of just taking the Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #107

Then its worthless. Sure, you taint him with "impeached". Didnt hurt Clinton. oldsoftie Jun 2019 #118

Disagree completely. Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #123

+1,000,000 Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #105

He's already going to say that...so what? TCJ70 Jun 2019 #134

Don't despair. jmbar2 Jun 2019 #35

You explain the strategy behind not promoting house hearings as impeachment inquiry well. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #51

I'm not sure what Pelosi is thinking. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #36

+1000 crazytown Jun 2019 #65

I think if she really wanted to impeach, the votes Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #110

Give her a break. She is 79. LiberalArkie Jun 2019 #37

Sharp, poised, well spoken, and crafty. All her mental machinery works. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #52

"There's going to come a day when we all have to answer for what we did in this moment," said Rep. Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #53

It won't. Just like letting Dubya off the hook Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #102

She's losing the ground work for an effective inquiry. Trust her. dem4decades Jun 2019 #55

Madame Speaker doesn't seem to understand something very important to many of us. Goodheart Jun 2019 #56

We all should know Trump by now? Locutusofborg Jun 2019 #77

So you want a failed impeachment attempt to make you feel good? GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #92

the word is BECAUSE, not CAUSE Skittles Jun 2019 #96

When your first response is to attack my grammar, GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #156

LOLOL Skittles Jun 2019 #158

Then you should read it again. Goodheart Jun 2019 #143

I just did. My opinion remains the same. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #157

That's not what you said the first time. Goodheart Jun 2019 #159

Sigh Me. Jun 2019 #57

She can be wrong no matter how great she is. Goodheart Jun 2019 #58

I Can't Help Wondering Me. Jun 2019 #90

Yip. I missed her announcement that she had made a decision not to act!1 UTUSN Jun 2019 #61

That's because she didn't radical noodle Jun 2019 #87

Thanks for the reinforcement!1 UTUSN Jun 2019 #89

The Clinton impeachment is a terrible reference point Cetacea Jun 2019 #60

Impeachment is off the table. Lucky Luciano Jun 2019 #62

I am seriously wondering Lulu KC Jun 2019 #64

What are you talking about? yardwork Jun 2019 #67

It seems like a lot of folks think Pelosi can start an impeachment inquiry by herself. CaptainTruth Jun 2019 #68

Yeah, but witnesses actually showed up and testified then. Ligyron Jun 2019 #88

The RW only understands one thing and that is power, strength and force. hadEnuf Jun 2019 #69

+1. n/t jaysunb Jun 2019 #75

So, impeach and hand control of the process to McConnell? How does that make it better? tinrobot Jun 2019 #72

As long as she does nothing, they can never again say ecstatic Jun 2019 #74

Highly underestimated benefit to impeachment! Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #104

What do you mean she's done nothing? Still In Wisconsin Jun 2019 #145

. dalton99a Jun 2019 #79

Consequences of not impeaching vapor2 Jun 2019 #80

Yes! Plus 2 mill !! Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #103

Just because you can't see what Speaker Pelosi is doing doesn't mean underthematrix Jun 2019 #83

Agree! mountain grammy Jun 2019 #97

Get over it Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #108

Brave post..since you knew you'd get flak! I did not Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #109

Impeachment is not going to happen ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #127

2020 is too important and the american people are too dumb dsp3000 Jun 2019 #129

It took me a while, but I've come around to the same conclusion myself. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2019 #144

Speaker Pelosi has signaled her saidsimplesimon Jun 2019 #151

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #153