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MadHound

(34,179 posts)
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 07:39 AM Aug 2012

Well, Republicans can kiss any hope of support from Ron Paul supporters goodbye [View all]

Modern day conventions are supposed to be venues for bringing all the different party constituents together behind supporting one candidate. Primary losers are given coveted speaking positions, rival delegates are treated with respect, and generally some serious efforts are made to smooth the waters and soothe egos so that the party can go forward together and support the nominee.

Not so at this year's Republican convention. After a set of last minute rule changes designed to concentrate power into even fewer hands, the Romney folks added more insult, and injury.
"A minor revolt broke out on the floor of the Republican Party's presidential convention Tuesday afternoon and evening. Ron Paul delegates from several states erupted into protest over a controversial change to the party's rules to block future insurgencies mounted by outside candidates like their hero. Paul supporters also freaked out over the convention's refusal to recognize about two dozen Paul delegates and for refusing to treat Paul like a serious candidate for the nomination.

During the roll call of the states, the Paulites were irate, screaming at the podium, as convention secretary Kim Reynolds declined to read out the delegate votes for any candidate other than Romney. "The Republican Party is so afraid of Ron Paul that they won't repeat his name," shouted Jim Ayala, a Nevada delegate and Paul supporter wearing an Oath Keepers t-shirt.

Minutes earlier, the Paulites were enraged when the convention adopted the new set of rules on a voice vote during which the Paul backers out-shouted the other delegates. One Nevada delegate and Paul supporter, Mark Carducci, thrust two middle fingers into the air toward RNC Chairman Reince Priebus and House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), screaming "Fuck you, tyrants!"
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/ron-paul-supporters-rebel-convention-floor-fuck-you-tyrants

Never the most comfortable members of the Republican party, Paulites have now suffered their final insult at the hands of the party. The Paul delegates who marched out of the convention were also taking their fellow supporters along with them, and marching right on out of the party. Doing a quick run through the internet this morning, blog after Paulite blog, website after Paulite website is urging fellow Paulites to either stay home or vote Libertarian, and they probably will, in droves.

The Paulites were always like old, sweaty dynamite, if not handled gently, they would blow up in your faces, and that is exactly what happened. The funny thing is, the Republicans really needed these people on board, really needed their organization. The Paulites were important not just for their numbers(roughly about ten percent of the party), but for their expertise in grassroots politics. Nobody, absolutely nobody in the Republican party knew how to work the grassworks circuit better than the Ron Paul machine.

Now, that expertise is gone, along with all those votes. This means that Romney's chances for winning the election have just decreased, badly. After all, who would have more chance of winning over a backwoods uber conservative voter in Arkansas, a Paulite campaigner who speaks his language, or some pasty white boy in a shirt and tie who's just been bussed in from St. Louis? Yeah, they're going to need that Paulite ground game.

But that's all gone now, and for our sake, that is a good thing. This is just another in a long line of instances where Romney and the Republicans have handled things badly, and the mistakes are starting to pile up. Ineptness and insensitivity doesn't win campaigns, yet that seems all that the Romney and Republicans can muster. It's going to be a long campaign season for them.

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We shall see n2doc Aug 2012 #1
That was my first thought, too. Lucy Goosey Aug 2012 #9
R&R had to move towards the center. They will understand. SDjack Aug 2012 #12
I don't think Paulites "understand" a lot of things but they do TeamPooka Aug 2012 #46
Reassuring analysis, thanks! FailureToCommunicate Aug 2012 #2
repubs never had their support to begin with Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #3
Oh, not soon I hope. aquart Aug 2012 #10
Passing this around: docgee Aug 2012 #4
cheating is their way. nt G_j Aug 2012 #20
By "our" does that mean that you are a Ron Paul supporter? karynnj Aug 2012 #22
Are you asking me if I'm a Ron paul supporter? docgee Aug 2012 #47
Good to hear - it was not clear what was quote and what was yours n/t karynnj Aug 2012 #48
It's an example of how the romneys would run Cha Aug 2012 #49
My Libertarian brother: "I'm not voting for either of them!" Patiod Aug 2012 #5
I'll see where the Rand Paul speech goes tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #6
In Virginia, there is a viable third party alternative JPZenger Aug 2012 #7
Goode is a non-factor in any part of the state that actually has people... Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #8
But every vote he gets Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #29
The only Paulite I've talked to about this told me he's outraged, and he won't be voting for highplainsdem Aug 2012 #11
Works for me if they all stay home. nt Chorophyll Aug 2012 #14
true, although "all of them" isn't very many. onenote Aug 2012 #27
Maybe they won't impact the outcome, but the party looks like a big mess Chorophyll Aug 2012 #36
I don't buy it. Codeine Aug 2012 #13
You're probably right. HappyMe Aug 2012 #26
I don't think so. Marr Aug 2012 #33
To me it appears that they just don't care. zeemike Aug 2012 #15
They've probably programmed all the Paul votes to flip to Romney anyway. nt valerief Aug 2012 #16
That worries me. It could well be true. yardwork Aug 2012 #25
I believe it usually is. Why bother with electronic voting machines if you don't rig them? nt valerief Aug 2012 #28
Should Dems give money to the Libertarian candidate? Johonny Aug 2012 #17
What? No. nt Chorophyll Aug 2012 #37
You know Republicans have done this against Dems Johonny Aug 2012 #40
That maneuver has to be thought out. Zalatix Aug 2012 #50
The entire republican mind set is authoritarian Nazi. loudsue Aug 2012 #18
Rmoney is going to regret that move. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2012 #19
Maybe yes, maybe no... Javaman Aug 2012 #21
They kicked the Iowa delegation of Paul supporters off of the convention floor. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #23
Libertarians vote with the Thugs jsr Aug 2012 #24
so the republicans had their own "night of the long knifes" madrchsod Aug 2012 #30
Yep-- that was the most interesting political event I've seen a long time. Marr Aug 2012 #31
Gary Johnson 2012!!!! Heather MC Aug 2012 #32
I would draw one distinction.... Swede Atlanta Aug 2012 #34
Otherwise, they would have voted for Romney with a neocon for a war policy adviser ... Kolesar Aug 2012 #35
Ron Paul will tell them to vote for Romney ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #38
How much Paulite support were they going to get anyway? JHB Aug 2012 #39
paulites are proud, stubborn people.. frylock Aug 2012 #41
Please oh please Dear Lord Satan, let there be a Ron Paul Third Party Run! Kennah Aug 2012 #42
They will huff and puff and vote for the GOP. CK_John Aug 2012 #43
Both groups want the same thing: To control everything without accountability. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #44
they will fall into line dembotoz Aug 2012 #45
Do you know what the one big, huge, telling difference is between Paultards and Republicans? Scootaloo Aug 2012 #51
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