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Midnightwalk

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20. Why is understanding voting so hard?

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 06:00 PM

Jul 2019

The only message sent by losing an election is that the other side was more popular. Expect politicians to shift towards that position and live with the policies you didn’t oppose.

There are choices that aren’t forced on you but there are plenty that are. If you don’t like any of the movies playing no one forces you to see one.

If you have to go to work, you gave to choose to drive, walk, etc or lose your job. If you are hungry and the only food you have is lima beans or sardines you pick one or go to the store.

Is the problem that mentally we’re set up to not like decisions we have to make as opposed to choices we get to make? Maybe there actually us something to ranked choice voting. It may not actually change “the real choice” but maybe it gets people past the mental block we seem to have about forced choices.

Sorry this doesn’t completely fit in with your post. I don’t have any real comment other than i mostly agree.

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I spend 2-3 hours a day online in various places defending Nancy and [View all] Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 OP

Read The Article Linked Below Me. Jul 2019 #1

Skimmed it, that is what I know about the situation. Makes sense, but get most to hear it Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #2

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you are full of it Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #4

... Me. Jul 2019 #6

Oh yes, now I know what you meant Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #7

... Me. Jul 2019 #8

Do the right thing! Goodheart Jul 2019 #18

Yeah she's definitely in a no win situation. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #5

How about impressing the voting population by DOING THE RIGHT THING? Goodheart Jul 2019 #9

what is that? Having a vote on impeachment and have it lose 335 to 100? what if that Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #11

My fear: when impeachment fails, Dems are demotivated by MASSIVE... Beartracks Jul 2019 #39

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Agree. It is their constitutional duty. triron Jul 2019 #38

The voting public is always impressed by displays of impotence. Crunchy Frog Jul 2019 #55

We don't seem to understand that there aren't enough Democrats for conviction? Goodheart Jul 2019 #10

Not realistic, she doesnt call for them to vote in such a manner they lose their seat. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #13

What makes you think that will happen? I say impeachment will strengthen their seats. Goodheart Jul 2019 #15

How do you impeach if most of the witnesses dont show up? Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #17

I think you're confused. Impeachment is easy enough with a majority vote... Goodheart Jul 2019 #19

No NOT confused, at last count we have 100 votes in the HOUSE from Democrats for impeachment Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #22

It's not difficult to understand that as soon as Pelosi calls for an impeachment Goodheart Jul 2019 #24

Do you think Pelosi has a magic wand? Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #25

I dont think she can get enough of the centrists (the New Democrat Coalition, The Blue Dog Caucus, Celerity Jul 2019 #57

That's depressing but probably true. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #59

the giant healthcare provider lobbies (doctors, hospitals) the giant insurance lobbies Celerity Jul 2019 #69

So, Centrists are the only Bettie Jul 2019 #75

I disagree. watoos Jul 2019 #16

No question in my mind. At least it's being acknowledged that many Democrats Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #31

The midterms were won on kitchen table issues such as healthcare. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #34

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I voted for them to take on Trump also. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #61

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Yeah, basically that's the way I read it. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #63

Very well said nt Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #65

Last House mid-terms were not a single issue election (kitchen table) GOTV. Our turnout was Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #79

This I feel in my spirit to be true. sprinkleeninow Jul 2019 #71

There is no good reason to not impeach. watoos Jul 2019 #12

Are you forgetting why Mueller gave up? Witnesses who lied about everything Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #14

Impeachment "gives us nothing"? I beg to differ. Goodheart Jul 2019 #21

I respectfully disagree. watoos Jul 2019 #27

I believe he'd be marched out of office Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #29

You AGREED with me. :) Goodheart Jul 2019 #30

Barr himself said that he would release grand jury information watoos Jul 2019 #23

when was that? Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #26

No he didn't. He has NO authority to release JG-6E material AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #64

Is there any proof of that? Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #68

What does 2010 have to do with it? Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #66

Why is understanding voting so hard? Midnightwalk Jul 2019 #20

voting does not matter if Russia and the FBI game the system Skittles Jul 2019 #42

It still does Midnightwalk Jul 2019 #50

that's a lot of IFS Skittles Jul 2019 #56

I'll make it simpler Midnightwalk Jul 2019 #70

I'll make it simpler Skittles Jul 2019 #76

Mommy there's no hope so I'm done with it all Midnightwalk Jul 2019 #77

Most people don't know the complications of the problem. Most people think this is as easy as Stuart G Jul 2019 #28

that is what I have been saying Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #33

Here's the link to that article. chowder66 Jul 2019 #47

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I haven't seen ANYONE here who thinks that way. Crunchy Frog Jul 2019 #58

+1000 Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #80

Impeachment has never been a positive of the impeached for the control of government NEVER. I don't uponit7771 Jul 2019 #32

anyone who doesn't vote is a piece of shit and probably wants Republicans to win JI7 Jul 2019 #35

Well, lots sure, but we have to understand a whole lotta people didnt vote because they Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #36

I'm hoping there's less of them this time. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #37

I stand and support Nancy Pelosi Gothmog Jul 2019 #40

And not impeaching will allow Trump and all the Trumpistas out there PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #41

who is doing nothing? stillcool Jul 2019 #49

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I only know what I read... stillcool Jul 2019 #67

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you definitely seem to have a vested interest in promoting her Skittles Jul 2019 #43

The leader of our party? The person primarily responsible for the ACA? Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #44

Ditto! nt chowder66 Jul 2019 #48

K&R betsuni Jul 2019 #45

there's something up with people.. stillcool Jul 2019 #46

Or they have a difference of opinion. Crunchy Frog Jul 2019 #60

I don't think the smash-mouth stillcool Jul 2019 #72

Sorry, I don't watch TV. Crunchy Frog Jul 2019 #74

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