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Sophiegirl

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56. It is pretty striking

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:21 PM

Jul 2019

It is pretty striking how delicate our democracy was. I assumed certain norms would hold true. However, they clearly have not withstood the internal forces that welcomed external forces to retain power at all costs and win the crown, so to speak. Including ejecting our collective morality and ethics. The sense of right and wrong; good and bad. Where hate and fear are encouraged and divisiveness is embraced.

I grieve for what we have lost in just over a couple of years. What has stood firm since the birth of our nation. But I will fight to regain it. For me...for my children...and my grandchildren....

What I want to know is....where are our former leaders and why aren’t they standing up publicly for the people? Because it is not polite??? Seems that President Carter is the only former President to tell it like it is!! That the election was stolen. That Trump is an illegitimate President. Where are the others? Why aren’t they speaking for us in a way that makes the nightly news on a regular basis? Polite is so over.

I should stop now. Hoping for seriously stormy weather tomorrow evening. Forecast seems good for it here in DC. I live in the burbs. I want major storms tomorrow that will spoil his little me-fest.

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Fucking unbelievable. Folks, I think our democracy may be dead. [View all] triron Jul 2019 OP

We are on the brink. BKDem Jul 2019 #1

No, it isn't. Read what the judge said. The injunction is still in effect. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #2

Whatever you say. I am tired of this shit. triron Jul 2019 #3

We're all tired of this shit, but that's what they want. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #4

I don't understand bdamomma Jul 2019 #36

+1 (n/t) forgotmylogin Jul 2019 #47

Thomas Paine quote atreides1 Jul 2019 #78

+1000 paleotn Jul 2019 #93

Thank you. Desert grandma Jul 2019 #95

Exactly. paleotn Jul 2019 #94

1500 radio stations have been calling for this census question for years and now certainot Jul 2019 #99

Thank you StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #7

What is disturbing is the fact that Trump will try to circumvent court orders, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #8

I can't imagine how miserable these lawyers must be StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #9

Just from reading the transcript, I got the impression The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #10

this is my prediction not_the_one Jul 2019 #58

It's already gone to the printer without the question. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #59

Oh great. That's what we need. Put Ivanka on it. calimary Jul 2019 #88

This morning CNN reported he's threatening an Executive Order over the census bullshit spanone Jul 2019 #75

".... try to find a way to include the question while still complying pangaia Jul 2019 #28

I thought that the printing deadline lordsummerisle Jul 2019 #46

I think the printing has already started, so it can't be changed. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #54

They will send the ones without the questions to areas where Trump has property LiberalArkie Jul 2019 #92

What the transcript says, in essence, is this. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #83

That's about right. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #85

It's done. Maven Jul 2019 #5

Should we consider splitting the union? scarytomcat Jul 2019 #23

Our constitution seems a poor remedy. What do you propose? triron Jul 2019 #25

Leave and start a new country and let rethugs do it their way scarytomcat Jul 2019 #34

Vlad would bdamomma Jul 2019 #38

Yes he does scarytomcat Jul 2019 #42

Trump doesn't have to side with Vlad.... ewagner Jul 2019 #68

I'm afraid I would be stuck behind the iron curtain. ooky Jul 2019 #45

sorry scarytomcat Jul 2019 #105

How about we divide the country by elevation? royable Jul 2019 #49

One if by land, two if by sea onetexan Jul 2019 #62

OK I'M IN scarytomcat Jul 2019 #106

No. tazkcmo Jul 2019 #76

so more dead Americans scarytomcat Jul 2019 #104

3 million tazkcmo Jul 2019 #107

sorry to be tommy downer scarytomcat Jul 2019 #108

No problem. tazkcmo Jul 2019 #109

I was born in KC scarytomcat Jul 2019 #110

You could join Canada TrogL Jul 2019 #82

Canada does not want us poor mericans that can't support themselves scarytomcat Jul 2019 #103

Happy 243rd, America. I hope you live to see 244. Different Drummer Jul 2019 #6

mee to pangaia Jul 2019 #29

Monster struggle4progress Jul 2019 #11

Yes! BigOleDummy Jul 2019 #67

Not Dead Me. Jul 2019 #12

............ bdamomma Jul 2019 #40

Absolutely Butterflylady Jul 2019 #81

They Going To Fold Because Of The Traitor In The WH? Me. Jul 2019 #84

With God on our side struggle4progress Jul 2019 #13

My country tis of thy people struggle4progress Jul 2019 #14

Trump is a con man watoos Jul 2019 #15

Eve of destruction struggle4progress Jul 2019 #16

And they've been packing the courts with extremists IronLionZion Jul 2019 #17

That is something tooo many seem to forget.. pangaia Jul 2019 #30

Its fucked Ahpook Jul 2019 #18

How can I keep from singing? struggle4progress Jul 2019 #19

If I had a hammer struggle4progress Jul 2019 #20

Eye on the prize struggle4progress Jul 2019 #21

There needs to be someone standing over the actual printers and monitoring what come out just to aquamarina Jul 2019 #22

Meanwhile the House won't even stand up and Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #24

+1 superpatriotman Jul 2019 #31

Stunning isn't it. triron Jul 2019 #32

+1 The Dem. Lions of the Senate, where are they? appalachiablue Jul 2019 #43

+1 dalton99a Jul 2019 #70

We are not alone bdamomma Jul 2019 #79

I'm beginning to fear that Nancy Pelosi doesn't have the fight in her anymore Poiuyt Jul 2019 #90

there is no rule of law anymore anarch Jul 2019 #96

It's wild. Nt. TheSocialDem Jul 2019 #26

All the more reason we must unite behind the candidate that will democratisphere Jul 2019 #27

Except vote-suppressing Republican goons and Russian GRU, etc. are behind Trump. triron Jul 2019 #35

Remember the French Revolution 230 years ago. They got it right! Mr. Evil Jul 2019 #33

Pitchforks torches and rope The Wizard Jul 2019 #51

There wasn't a "well-armed militia" of violent white supremacists at the ready to attack the JudyM Jul 2019 #77

DOJ is devoid of integrity. Stand up for something other than a deranged narcissist. Pepsidog Jul 2019 #37

All of this in only two and a half short years. dewsgirl Jul 2019 #39

Don't sign the death certificate yet. We are just at the beginning stage delisen Jul 2019 #41

not that I'd condone any such horrific violence, but.... anarch Jul 2019 #97

And Republicans sit by happily because that annoying American democracy will soon be gone. Kablooie Jul 2019 #44

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2019 #72

The Soviet Union no longer exists. TexasTowelie Jul 2019 #73

We had a good run. sobenji Jul 2019 #48

Maybe we need a Tianamin zentrum Jul 2019 #50

He needs a talking point for his "Parade" Desert_Leslie Jul 2019 #52

So Roberts gave them a heads up on how to argue the case to make it seem less racist and partisan Freethinker65 Jul 2019 #53

Yes, We Are A Lot Farther Down The Rabbit Hole DallasNE Jul 2019 #55

It is pretty striking Sophiegirl Jul 2019 #56

What's even scarier is the SCOTUS orders that will be obeyed. StevieM Jul 2019 #57

Right, Nancy world wide wally Jul 2019 #60

It all rests on the next election. When 42% or 43% approve of a wannabe fascist president, we are in Doodley Jul 2019 #61

All that matters .. approval in swing. Would like to Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #100

My realization Wawannabe Jul 2019 #63

When are we going to learn that the Republican agenda is to destroy Democracy in this country. YOHABLO Jul 2019 #64

Not dead. Price of liberty is eternal vigilance. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #65

Could be. moondust Jul 2019 #66

What the South did wrong was to attack Fort Sumter. Everyman Jackal Jul 2019 #69

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2019 #74

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2019 #71

It Is In Jeopardy colsohlibgal Jul 2019 #80

Dawn's early light, or Twilight's last gleaming? alterfurz Jul 2019 #86

It will take more than a loser like Donald Trump to destroy the American republic. n/t Laelth Jul 2019 #87

My friends, comrades and country-persons The Liberal Lion Jul 2019 #89

All excellent reasons the MF Must GO. Cha Jul 2019 #91

If Democracy Were Alive, My Vote would Count More than a Cow's MikeJelf Jul 2019 #98

Change the Constitution...it's just that simple(complicated). AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #102

May be dead, on the brink, on the edge... Thomas Hurt Jul 2019 #101