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14. you know if he were guilty it would have

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Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:50 PM

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been heralded to the world years ago.

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News: President Clinton has issued a statement on Jeffrey Epstein [View all] demmiblue Jul 2019 OP

I hope this is the truth. nt mobeau69 Jul 2019 #1

Well, they can validate with SS those trips he has mentioned; hlthe2b Jul 2019 #3

you know if he were guilty it would have WhiteTara Jul 2019 #14

That's true-- Epstein would have blabbed it himself. dawg day Jul 2019 #123

according to limbaugh and 1500 radio stations he IS guilty and they have been heralding it for years certainot Jul 2019 #138

News orgs long ago did FOIA's to verify that SS were with him on his trips. n/t pnwmom Jul 2019 #24

It wont matter. Bill could be guilty of owning one Playboy magazine and he would Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #160

Of COURSE it's the truth. (Not sarcastic) nt LAS14 Jul 2019 #84

What reasons do you have to think it might not be? (nt) ehrnst Jul 2019 #136

There was no letterhead! lapucelle Jul 2019 #152

K&R... spanone Jul 2019 #2

Damn, Yashar! Where is the letterhead? Who wrote this? How did you come across it? mobeau69 Jul 2019 #4

See #34. n/t demmiblue Jul 2019 #36

Sorry spanone. See #5 mobeau69 Jul 2019 #8

no problem....it did have me scratching my head! spanone Jul 2019 #9

You make a good point. I googled this and apparently no one else is reporting this as of right now. spanone Jul 2019 #17

One more....I did find this spanone Jul 2019 #19

Sorry. Intended as a reply to the OP. mobeau69 Jul 2019 #5

Good mcar Jul 2019 #6

That should shut down the rumors. George II Jul 2019 #7

Where is the Con's statement malaise Jul 2019 #11

He yelled from the helicopter pad that he "knows nothing about that" maxrandb Jul 2019 #26

Sending journalists to jail for writing things you don't like is somethign tRump has threatened Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #33

Except that he's full of shit maxrandb Jul 2019 #42

Trying to exact political revenge on journalists for not writing what you want is NOT Progressive Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #49

+1000... reACTIONary Jul 2019 #92

Oddly enough, no one on DU has the power to affect the actions you recite. LanternWaste Jul 2019 #148

Except that you have someone advocating for the government to do so. Caliman73 Jul 2019 #150

However, I have heard journalists roundly condemned here on DU for fact checking ehrnst Jul 2019 #137

That's what he said about the payment to Stormy, on the steps of his plane. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #38

Yeah, the only investigating the news media will do on Trump is looking for the Blue_true Jul 2019 #65

When the dems take back power.... reACTIONary Jul 2019 #94

"Mind if I play through, Gerry?" sheshe2 Jul 2019 #126

Nothing Will Ever Do That Me. Jul 2019 #109

It should, but it won't. herding cats Jul 2019 #147

The likelihood that Clinton traveled alone without Secret Service LiberalFighter Jul 2019 #10

Are you diminishing George Washington's achievement??? dawg day Jul 2019 #124

Secret Service was always present. Glad to hear this. onecaliberal Jul 2019 #12

They would have to be with him anytime he meets someone. nt Blue_true Jul 2019 #66

Reassuring Roy Rolling Jul 2019 #13

Agree on all counts. nt Blue_true Jul 2019 #67

I believe the staement made by Clinton, Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #15

Well hell, they believe in Pizzagate and that Sandy Hook was faked. nolabear Jul 2019 #18

Presidents don't "ditch" their Secret Service detail patphil Jul 2019 #22

We know that's true, Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #23

they WANT to believe it. just like they will ignore the truth about Trump JI7 Jul 2019 #63

Oh, c'mon. It happens all the time... Wounded Bear Jul 2019 #64

The replies to that tweet are something else DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #16

Great news! Kingofalldems Jul 2019 #20

Bill, zip it saidsimplesimon Jul 2019 #21

He's only bringing attention to it. nt Duppers Jul 2019 #31

But if he didn't issue a statement, all sorts of people might continue to repeat Fox News gossip. lapucelle Jul 2019 #153

Neither Clinton will run for office again, so, they didn't need to publish that. lindysalsagal Jul 2019 #73

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #74

But it's high enough, and he was not trafficing. He didn't coerce her. lindysalsagal Jul 2019 #77

23, iirc Meadowoak Jul 2019 #78

??? Skittles Jul 2019 #131

Denials of the relevant is not worthy of a post, imo, LanternWaste Jul 2019 #149

I'm sure hannity will have his crack team kacekwl Jul 2019 #25

Trump has operatives on the way to Hawaii leftieNanner Jul 2019 #27

Fantastic ! kacekwl Jul 2019 #100

While we wait, he can chant NO RAPE NO COLLUSION NO OBSTRUCTION a few hundred times? Brainfodder Jul 2019 #169

This doesn't play to Trumpist bee ess....there will be a dozen conspiracy theories by morning. Thomas Hurt Jul 2019 #28

Just as soon as they can be translated Troy The Raver Jul 2019 #159

... Scurrilous Jul 2019 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Jul 2019 #30

Wikipedia is filled with misinformation. Kingofalldems Jul 2019 #32

No. It is not. It is not perfect, but it is very good. See my post #43 in this subthread. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #39

It's really not. TwilightZone Jul 2019 #76

Flight records are official records that can be subpoenaed and viewed. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #40

He says he hasn't been in contact with him for more than a decade StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #44

Flight recorders have been publishes by Gawker ... 4139 Jul 2019 #48

Google Lolita Express manifests Sienna86 Jul 2019 #80

Anyone can change wiki. Plus, the 26 times thing is a right-wing talking point. TwilightZone Jul 2019 #41

And it will get changed right back. It seems the 26 flights would consistent with four (4) trips. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #46

They're claiming he visited the island 26 times. TwilightZone Jul 2019 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Jul 2019 #56

Nah, don't delete. It provides context for the rest of subthread, which has info. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #57

Yep. Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #83

The reference for that is a Faux Noise article that twists things but is not inconsistent with Pres Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #43

Flights not equivalent to trips Loki Liesmith Jul 2019 #52

Thanks, Loki! Duppers Jul 2019 #54

I'm deleting. Duppers Jul 2019 #59

Just to clarify, the original material comes from President Clinton's Press Secretary: demmiblue Jul 2019 #34

With the cottage industry in Bill and Hilary bashing replete with well-produced films and books, emmaverybo Jul 2019 #35

I agree. Blue_true Jul 2019 #69

But Clinton is known to lie Beringia Jul 2019 #37

Really? You're going there? mac56 Jul 2019 #45

That was my first response, what's yours Beringia Jul 2019 #51

Not me, copy of my original response saidsimplesimon Jul 2019 #53

Give me a break. Didn't you read that he was never alone with him on those trips? lunamagica Jul 2019 #60

K&R for visibility lunamagica Jul 2019 #61

It depends of what is, is? saidsimplesimon Jul 2019 #68

If there was something of this magnitude on Bill Clinton, we would have Blue_true Jul 2019 #72

Instead we get the Pizzagate and Seth Rich conspiracies against Hillary, Qutzupalotl Jul 2019 #146

Seeing what I have seen from the right, you made a lot of excellent observations. nt Blue_true Jul 2019 #163

There are Secret Service records. lapucelle Jul 2019 #162

A am so glad he did this. He knows about what a mess a bitty lie made years ago, there's no way ... marble falls Jul 2019 #47

HEY FAUX NEWS AND RUSSIAN BOTS brettdale Jul 2019 #50

It's both 4 and 26. Four trips with 26 flights contained therein. All with Secret Service. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #58

Good. Attempts to link Clinton to this story are pure speculation. Aaron Pereira Jul 2019 #55

dumbasses fell for the right wing attacks. even just common sense JI7 Jul 2019 #62

Gruesome. lindysalsagal Jul 2019 #70

Look at Melanoma before she became a Trump. littlemissmartypants Jul 2019 #71

Double date? Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #86

The picture was taken by an official White House photographer in a box at the US Open in 2000, lapucelle Jul 2019 #165

How is the Kos community article you link to related to the Bill Clinton statement? lapucelle Jul 2019 #164

I posted my lack of rationale in the italicized paragraph. littlemissmartypants Jul 2019 #166

Now he must address why Epstein's close minion Ghislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #79

Because she was invited? Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #85

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #96

She also used to pilot his plane. Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #98

I question Clinton using Epstein's plane too. 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #103

Maybe it speaks to Clinton Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #105

Epstein's proclivities were no secret. He was a sick sleazebag. 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #111

Yeah, I'll bet you'll never vote for him again. Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #112

What does that mean? 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #113

... lapucelle Jul 2019 #156

It's not that big of a mystery or even a surprise. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #134

Her very close association with a known sleaze like Epstein makes her suspect. 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #139

I don't disagree with you that she is unsavory - to say the least. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #140

I wouldn't invite someone I knew to be a procurer of underage girls to my 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #141

You're making assumptions. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #142

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #143

ok Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #144

Voted for the man twice, loved him as President, but I really don't care about this denial Tarc Jul 2019 #81

I think the denial has an interesting subtext. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #135

There was a very good reason for him to release a statement. lapucelle Jul 2019 #154

"I hope he's telling the truth." liberalmuse Jul 2019 #82

The one thing going for him in this is... Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #87

That's right. liberalmuse Jul 2019 #90

there is nobody claiming he did anything with them in this case JI7 Jul 2019 #89

This is true. liberalmuse Jul 2019 #91

Correct. Lots of women have come forward. No child has ever claimed MaryMagdaline Jul 2019 #104

Very good point. n/t Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #107

Correct. I believe Virginia Roberts, who accused Prince Andrew of rape, mentioned Clinton by name... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #115

She didn't say he was at the parties. She says he was at one of the MaryMagdaline Jul 2019 #128

Yes - but even that is dubious as there's no flight record that puts Clinton close to the island. Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #129

She claimed to have seen Bill Clinton on the island. lapucelle Jul 2019 #155

But every trumpkin out there right now is whatabouting like mad Grokenstein Jul 2019 #121

Barr recused himself from the case nt maryellen99 Jul 2019 #93

I'm sure President Trump will make a similarly detailed clarifying statement. Stinky The Clown Jul 2019 #95

Trump's statement: Epstein who? Thomas Hurt Jul 2019 #101

Interesting that Bill doesn't say he has never been to Epstein's NYC residence. Princetonian Jul 2019 #97

He specifically states he was at the residence, with staff. MaryMagdaline Jul 2019 #106

Let's say he's telling the truth Polybius Jul 2019 #99

Good points True Dough Jul 2019 #110

Sadly, I think both knew... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #118

This thread makes me nostalgic BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #102

Yup... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #122

This sounds credible. The truth is fixing to come out and this sounds truthful. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #108

Thank you, God Hekate Jul 2019 #114

Actually this is a statement from former President Clinton's spokesman PoliticAverse Jul 2019 #116

Sounds legit to me blue-wave Jul 2019 #117

Lots of evidence on this thread that Russiaan Jakes Progress Jul 2019 #119

Not really... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #120

You say it is only conjecture, Jakes Progress Jul 2019 #125

We do know things, though... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #127

here's the thing questionseverything Jul 2019 #161

Stop bashing Clinton. This would have been out waybefore. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #132

Not bashing - posting facts. Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #145

It is not a fact and associating with charity is a big difference than being besties...I fail to Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #167

I never called them besties... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #168

You have no idea if Clinton did anything wrong. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #170

Look, if you want to die on this mountain so be it. Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #171

Again pure supposition that only helps the right wing. They don't need anymore help from us. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #172

No it's not. Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #175

"You can't get upset with all the innuendos and rumors that lead nowhere with Trump rusty fender Jul 2019 #173

Thank you... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #174

Absolutely! rusty fender Jul 2019 #176

If Bill Clinton had done anything wrong videohead5 Jul 2019 #130

Good point, his lawyers would probably not have advised this OnDoutside Jul 2019 #133

good statement samnsara Jul 2019 #151

It is hard to commit sex crimes in front of observers like his Secret Service detail Gothmog Jul 2019 #157

I doubt that Secret Service follow all their charges into massage rooms and bedrooms. Princetonian Jul 2019 #158

The Secret Service are Federal Law Enforcement officers, thewy would be required to act... Historic NY Jul 2019 #177