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15. I believe the staement made by Clinton,

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:50 PM

Jul 2019

but I've already seen trolls in Yahoo News comments saying Clinton has been to the Island dozens of times and that he regularly ditched his SS detail to make such trips. I don't believe any of that, of course, but that's what we're up against. The deplorables will read that crap and believe every word of it.

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News: President Clinton has issued a statement on Jeffrey Epstein [View all] demmiblue Jul 2019 OP

I hope this is the truth. nt mobeau69 Jul 2019 #1

Well, they can validate with SS those trips he has mentioned; hlthe2b Jul 2019 #3

you know if he were guilty it would have WhiteTara Jul 2019 #14

That's true-- Epstein would have blabbed it himself. dawg day Jul 2019 #123

according to limbaugh and 1500 radio stations he IS guilty and they have been heralding it for years certainot Jul 2019 #138

News orgs long ago did FOIA's to verify that SS were with him on his trips. n/t pnwmom Jul 2019 #24

It wont matter. Bill could be guilty of owning one Playboy magazine and he would Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #160

Of COURSE it's the truth. (Not sarcastic) nt LAS14 Jul 2019 #84

What reasons do you have to think it might not be? (nt) ehrnst Jul 2019 #136

There was no letterhead! lapucelle Jul 2019 #152

K&R... spanone Jul 2019 #2

Damn, Yashar! Where is the letterhead? Who wrote this? How did you come across it? mobeau69 Jul 2019 #4

See #34. n/t demmiblue Jul 2019 #36

Sorry spanone. See #5 mobeau69 Jul 2019 #8

no problem....it did have me scratching my head! spanone Jul 2019 #9

You make a good point. I googled this and apparently no one else is reporting this as of right now. spanone Jul 2019 #17

One more....I did find this spanone Jul 2019 #19

Sorry. Intended as a reply to the OP. mobeau69 Jul 2019 #5

Good mcar Jul 2019 #6

That should shut down the rumors. George II Jul 2019 #7

Where is the Con's statement malaise Jul 2019 #11

He yelled from the helicopter pad that he "knows nothing about that" maxrandb Jul 2019 #26

Sending journalists to jail for writing things you don't like is somethign tRump has threatened Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #33

Except that he's full of shit maxrandb Jul 2019 #42

Trying to exact political revenge on journalists for not writing what you want is NOT Progressive Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #49

+1000... reACTIONary Jul 2019 #92

Oddly enough, no one on DU has the power to affect the actions you recite. LanternWaste Jul 2019 #148

Except that you have someone advocating for the government to do so. Caliman73 Jul 2019 #150

However, I have heard journalists roundly condemned here on DU for fact checking ehrnst Jul 2019 #137

That's what he said about the payment to Stormy, on the steps of his plane. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #38

Yeah, the only investigating the news media will do on Trump is looking for the Blue_true Jul 2019 #65

When the dems take back power.... reACTIONary Jul 2019 #94

"Mind if I play through, Gerry?" sheshe2 Jul 2019 #126

Nothing Will Ever Do That Me. Jul 2019 #109

It should, but it won't. herding cats Jul 2019 #147

The likelihood that Clinton traveled alone without Secret Service LiberalFighter Jul 2019 #10

Are you diminishing George Washington's achievement??? dawg day Jul 2019 #124

Secret Service was always present. Glad to hear this. onecaliberal Jul 2019 #12

They would have to be with him anytime he meets someone. nt Blue_true Jul 2019 #66

Reassuring Roy Rolling Jul 2019 #13

Agree on all counts. nt Blue_true Jul 2019 #67

I believe the staement made by Clinton, Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #15

Well hell, they believe in Pizzagate and that Sandy Hook was faked. nolabear Jul 2019 #18

Presidents don't "ditch" their Secret Service detail patphil Jul 2019 #22

We know that's true, Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #23

they WANT to believe it. just like they will ignore the truth about Trump JI7 Jul 2019 #63

Oh, c'mon. It happens all the time... Wounded Bear Jul 2019 #64

The replies to that tweet are something else DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #16

Great news! Kingofalldems Jul 2019 #20

Bill, zip it saidsimplesimon Jul 2019 #21

He's only bringing attention to it. nt Duppers Jul 2019 #31

But if he didn't issue a statement, all sorts of people might continue to repeat Fox News gossip. lapucelle Jul 2019 #153

Neither Clinton will run for office again, so, they didn't need to publish that. lindysalsagal Jul 2019 #73

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #74

But it's high enough, and he was not trafficing. He didn't coerce her. lindysalsagal Jul 2019 #77

23, iirc Meadowoak Jul 2019 #78

??? Skittles Jul 2019 #131

Denials of the relevant is not worthy of a post, imo, LanternWaste Jul 2019 #149

I'm sure hannity will have his crack team kacekwl Jul 2019 #25

Trump has operatives on the way to Hawaii leftieNanner Jul 2019 #27

Fantastic ! kacekwl Jul 2019 #100

While we wait, he can chant NO RAPE NO COLLUSION NO OBSTRUCTION a few hundred times? Brainfodder Jul 2019 #169

This doesn't play to Trumpist bee ess....there will be a dozen conspiracy theories by morning. Thomas Hurt Jul 2019 #28

Just as soon as they can be translated Troy The Raver Jul 2019 #159

... Scurrilous Jul 2019 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Jul 2019 #30

Wikipedia is filled with misinformation. Kingofalldems Jul 2019 #32

No. It is not. It is not perfect, but it is very good. See my post #43 in this subthread. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #39

It's really not. TwilightZone Jul 2019 #76

Flight records are official records that can be subpoenaed and viewed. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #40

He says he hasn't been in contact with him for more than a decade StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #44

Flight recorders have been publishes by Gawker ... 4139 Jul 2019 #48

Google Lolita Express manifests Sienna86 Jul 2019 #80

Anyone can change wiki. Plus, the 26 times thing is a right-wing talking point. TwilightZone Jul 2019 #41

And it will get changed right back. It seems the 26 flights would consistent with four (4) trips. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #46

They're claiming he visited the island 26 times. TwilightZone Jul 2019 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Jul 2019 #56

Nah, don't delete. It provides context for the rest of subthread, which has info. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #57

Yep. Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #83

The reference for that is a Faux Noise article that twists things but is not inconsistent with Pres Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #43

Flights not equivalent to trips Loki Liesmith Jul 2019 #52

Thanks, Loki! Duppers Jul 2019 #54

I'm deleting. Duppers Jul 2019 #59

Just to clarify, the original material comes from President Clinton's Press Secretary: demmiblue Jul 2019 #34

With the cottage industry in Bill and Hilary bashing replete with well-produced films and books, emmaverybo Jul 2019 #35

I agree. Blue_true Jul 2019 #69

But Clinton is known to lie Beringia Jul 2019 #37

Really? You're going there? mac56 Jul 2019 #45

That was my first response, what's yours Beringia Jul 2019 #51

Not me, copy of my original response saidsimplesimon Jul 2019 #53

Give me a break. Didn't you read that he was never alone with him on those trips? lunamagica Jul 2019 #60

K&R for visibility lunamagica Jul 2019 #61

It depends of what is, is? saidsimplesimon Jul 2019 #68

If there was something of this magnitude on Bill Clinton, we would have Blue_true Jul 2019 #72

Instead we get the Pizzagate and Seth Rich conspiracies against Hillary, Qutzupalotl Jul 2019 #146

Seeing what I have seen from the right, you made a lot of excellent observations. nt Blue_true Jul 2019 #163

There are Secret Service records. lapucelle Jul 2019 #162

A am so glad he did this. He knows about what a mess a bitty lie made years ago, there's no way ... marble falls Jul 2019 #47

HEY FAUX NEWS AND RUSSIAN BOTS brettdale Jul 2019 #50

It's both 4 and 26. Four trips with 26 flights contained therein. All with Secret Service. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #58

Good. Attempts to link Clinton to this story are pure speculation. Aaron Pereira Jul 2019 #55

dumbasses fell for the right wing attacks. even just common sense JI7 Jul 2019 #62

Gruesome. lindysalsagal Jul 2019 #70

Look at Melanoma before she became a Trump. littlemissmartypants Jul 2019 #71

Double date? Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #86

The picture was taken by an official White House photographer in a box at the US Open in 2000, lapucelle Jul 2019 #165

How is the Kos community article you link to related to the Bill Clinton statement? lapucelle Jul 2019 #164

I posted my lack of rationale in the italicized paragraph. littlemissmartypants Jul 2019 #166

Now he must address why Epstein's close minion Ghislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #79

Because she was invited? Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #85

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #96

She also used to pilot his plane. Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #98

I question Clinton using Epstein's plane too. 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #103

Maybe it speaks to Clinton Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #105

Epstein's proclivities were no secret. He was a sick sleazebag. 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #111

Yeah, I'll bet you'll never vote for him again. Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #112

What does that mean? 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #113

... lapucelle Jul 2019 #156

It's not that big of a mystery or even a surprise. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #134

Her very close association with a known sleaze like Epstein makes her suspect. 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #139

I don't disagree with you that she is unsavory - to say the least. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #140

I wouldn't invite someone I knew to be a procurer of underage girls to my 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #141

You're making assumptions. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #142

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #143

ok Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #144

Voted for the man twice, loved him as President, but I really don't care about this denial Tarc Jul 2019 #81

I think the denial has an interesting subtext. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #135

There was a very good reason for him to release a statement. lapucelle Jul 2019 #154

"I hope he's telling the truth." liberalmuse Jul 2019 #82

The one thing going for him in this is... Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #87

That's right. liberalmuse Jul 2019 #90

there is nobody claiming he did anything with them in this case JI7 Jul 2019 #89

This is true. liberalmuse Jul 2019 #91

Correct. Lots of women have come forward. No child has ever claimed MaryMagdaline Jul 2019 #104

Very good point. n/t Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #107

Correct. I believe Virginia Roberts, who accused Prince Andrew of rape, mentioned Clinton by name... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #115

She didn't say he was at the parties. She says he was at one of the MaryMagdaline Jul 2019 #128

Yes - but even that is dubious as there's no flight record that puts Clinton close to the island. Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #129

She claimed to have seen Bill Clinton on the island. lapucelle Jul 2019 #155

But every trumpkin out there right now is whatabouting like mad Grokenstein Jul 2019 #121

Barr recused himself from the case nt maryellen99 Jul 2019 #93

I'm sure President Trump will make a similarly detailed clarifying statement. Stinky The Clown Jul 2019 #95

Trump's statement: Epstein who? Thomas Hurt Jul 2019 #101

Interesting that Bill doesn't say he has never been to Epstein's NYC residence. Princetonian Jul 2019 #97

He specifically states he was at the residence, with staff. MaryMagdaline Jul 2019 #106

Let's say he's telling the truth Polybius Jul 2019 #99

Good points True Dough Jul 2019 #110

Sadly, I think both knew... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #118

This thread makes me nostalgic BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #102

Yup... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #122

This sounds credible. The truth is fixing to come out and this sounds truthful. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #108

Thank you, God Hekate Jul 2019 #114

Actually this is a statement from former President Clinton's spokesman PoliticAverse Jul 2019 #116

Sounds legit to me blue-wave Jul 2019 #117

Lots of evidence on this thread that Russiaan Jakes Progress Jul 2019 #119

Not really... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #120

You say it is only conjecture, Jakes Progress Jul 2019 #125

We do know things, though... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #127

here's the thing questionseverything Jul 2019 #161

Stop bashing Clinton. This would have been out waybefore. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #132

Not bashing - posting facts. Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #145

It is not a fact and associating with charity is a big difference than being besties...I fail to Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #167

I never called them besties... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #168

You have no idea if Clinton did anything wrong. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #170

Look, if you want to die on this mountain so be it. Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #171

Again pure supposition that only helps the right wing. They don't need anymore help from us. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #172

No it's not. Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #175

"You can't get upset with all the innuendos and rumors that lead nowhere with Trump rusty fender Jul 2019 #173

Thank you... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #174

Absolutely! rusty fender Jul 2019 #176

If Bill Clinton had done anything wrong videohead5 Jul 2019 #130

Good point, his lawyers would probably not have advised this OnDoutside Jul 2019 #133

good statement samnsara Jul 2019 #151

It is hard to commit sex crimes in front of observers like his Secret Service detail Gothmog Jul 2019 #157

I doubt that Secret Service follow all their charges into massage rooms and bedrooms. Princetonian Jul 2019 #158

The Secret Service are Federal Law Enforcement officers, thewy would be required to act... Historic NY Jul 2019 #177