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In reply to the discussion: Would impeachment of Trump be a positive or negative for Republicans? [View all]Gothmog
(176,838 posts)57. We risk losing control of the House if we pursue impeachment without 20 GOP Senate votes
Article of Impeachment are a stunt. Right now the polling shows only 27% favor an impeachment inquiry which is a far cry from actual article of impeachment. That number is up 10% percent from the prior polling which is some movement. 27% is not sufficient to win a congressional seat. Many moderate democrats are worried and for good reason. Right now it is my understanding that only 60+ house democrats favor an impeachment inquiry and that is not close to half of the caucus.
Moderate democrats have reason to worry
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Rep. Collin Peterson (D-MN) will entertain the idea of impeaching President Trump when hes sure enough votes exist in the GOP-controlled Senate to convict him. Which is to say, not anytime soon.
Were not anywhere close, Peterson told The Daily Beast as he exited the House floor on Tuesday. Hes been pressing his colleagues in the House Democratic caucus to recognize that this simple fact should put impeachment fever to bed, for now. But he says he hasnt had much luck.....
But political concerns clearly are a factor for Democratic moderates and the leadership that is closely following their re-election prospects. Pelosi, for starters, has fed the idea that Trump would welcome impeachment because it would fire up his base heading into the 2020 election. Impeachment proponents scoff at that argument, stressing that historical data isnt conclusive that the public rallies to the president under fire. But polling data tends to show that the country right now isnt enamored with the idea. A new survey from a Michigan-based pollster found in that key swing state, over 41 percent of voters strongly oppose impeachment, while 27 percent strongly supported.
Were not anywhere close, Peterson told The Daily Beast as he exited the House floor on Tuesday. Hes been pressing his colleagues in the House Democratic caucus to recognize that this simple fact should put impeachment fever to bed, for now. But he says he hasnt had much luck.....
But political concerns clearly are a factor for Democratic moderates and the leadership that is closely following their re-election prospects. Pelosi, for starters, has fed the idea that Trump would welcome impeachment because it would fire up his base heading into the 2020 election. Impeachment proponents scoff at that argument, stressing that historical data isnt conclusive that the public rallies to the president under fire. But polling data tends to show that the country right now isnt enamored with the idea. A new survey from a Michigan-based pollster found in that key swing state, over 41 percent of voters strongly oppose impeachment, while 27 percent strongly supported.
The two seats that we flipped in Texas would likely be lost if we file articles of impeachment and trump is vindicated by a GOP controlled Senate.
I want to pick up additional house seats this term and not lose seats. Lizzie and Collin are both good people and it would be a shame to lose these House members. I have been on the phone with both of them (dialing for dollar calls) and they are class people. Collin was with Marc Elias' firm and was involved in the 2016 voter protection efforts.
I support Nancy Pelosi's position here. I also support calling witnesses to testify bout the Mueller report and seeing if we can get the polling to shift on the percentage of Americans who support an impeachment inquiry (which is a far cry from Article of Impeachment).
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Would impeachment of Trump be a positive or negative for Republicans? [View all]
kentuck
Jul 2019
OP
the question is how many democratic voters will say its a waste of time to vote?
beachbum bob
Jul 2019
#1
Unfortunately I agree. I trust Pelosi and our dem leaders to do the right thing for us
Thekaspervote
Jul 2019
#39
Only in God do I trust ... and I'm not even sure there is a God. Plus, Pelosi's wrong on this.
KPN
Jul 2019
#77
We need to quit binary thinking. Hold the hearings right up until Election Day.
lagomorph777
Jul 2019
#83
No. People lobbying for impeachment NOW will take it that way. Republicans and many
emmaverybo
Jul 2019
#27
Umm. Impeachment does not remove him. Period end of story.That has nothing to do with fear. It is a
boston bean
Jul 2019
#14
Failure to at least open an inquiry will indeed suppress the youth vote
Fiendish Thingy
Jul 2019
#52
Give fodder? They don't need fodder. They make up more than enough of it on their own. In fact,
KPN
Jul 2019
#78
Positive either way: they get to keep their hands clean for the basket of ...
marble falls
Jul 2019
#9
At least partly because she weilds her power and influence to undermine the idea
Bradical79
Jul 2019
#29
Oh indeed ...the pukes will always vote their party and look the other way no matter
Thekaspervote
Jul 2019
#46
With aggressive and principled leadership it would mobilize far more Democrats than Republicans
BeyondGeography
Jul 2019
#30
I don't see it as a matter of being weak only -IMHO I see it as playing the long game
Thekaspervote
Jul 2019
#44
If Epstein rats out Trump as a chlid rapist, that could get some Reps. to vote him out.
Liberty Belle
Jul 2019
#33
I'm not qualified to make that determination. I wish I was. I'll defer to those who
ehrnst
Jul 2019
#36
Let's think ahead to the political ads the gopeee will run for the general
Thekaspervote
Jul 2019
#43
Impeachment has never been a positive of the impeached for the control of government ***NEVER***
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#45
We risk losing control of the House if we pursue impeachment without 20 GOP Senate votes
Gothmog
Jul 2019
#57
There's no historical reference for this, claim all there impeachment processes
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#60
We don't need the Senate to hurt Red Don and gop politically and uphold constitution
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#63
it doesn't matter how republicans are affected. only democrats. the latest research shows NEW
Kurt V.
Jul 2019
#53
They didn't gain any part of congress either in 98 or 2000 either, that's the point. Impeachment ...
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#68
This is false, dems gained no control of gov for nearly 3 election cycles post impeachment and
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#88
"You're basing everything thing on control" cause winning the game is better than just scoring
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#90
WHOOOO CAAAARESSSS - the question should be, what is the right thing to do .... not fretting about
Kashkakat v.2.0
Jul 2019
#61
