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In reply to the discussion: Katie Johnson video re: grooming by Epstein and rape by Trump [View all]Fla Dem
(27,782 posts)3. Is this a recent video, or has this been out for a while? See the VOX article.
The Katie Johnson lawsuit: This is the only accusation against Trump for Epstein-related wrongdoing. An anonymous woman sued Trump in 2016, claiming that in 1994, he violently raped her at an orgy hosted by Epstein. She said she was 13 years old at the time, and accused Epstein of raping her as well. She first filed suit in California under the name Katie Johnson, and when it was thrown out there for technical reasons, she filed it in New York under Jane Doe.
But many journalists were wary about this claim. There was no corroborating evidence offered (except for affidavits from two anonymous people claiming to have been told of or witnessed it), and the suit appeared to have been orchestrated by an eccentric anti-Trump campaigner with a record of making outlandish claims about celebrities, the Guardians Jon Swaine wrote. Jezebels Anna Merlan tried for some time to get to the bottom of what was going on and concluded in June 2016, The facts speak less to a scandal and more, perhaps, to an attempt at a smear.
Trump himself said, The allegations are not only categorically false, but disgusting at the highest level and clearly framed to solicit media attention or, perhaps, are simply politically motivated.
All that was before the Access Hollywood tape and before many women had spoken out publicly to accuse Trump of sexual assault. But even after that, the anonymity of Katie Johnson and the sketchiness of her associates kept mainstream US journalists wary about this accusation. She ended up withdrawing her lawsuit days before the 2016 election; her attorney Lisa Bloom said it was because she was getting death threats.
https://www.vox.com/2019/7/9/20686347/jeffrey-epstein-trump-bill-clinton
But many journalists were wary about this claim. There was no corroborating evidence offered (except for affidavits from two anonymous people claiming to have been told of or witnessed it), and the suit appeared to have been orchestrated by an eccentric anti-Trump campaigner with a record of making outlandish claims about celebrities, the Guardians Jon Swaine wrote. Jezebels Anna Merlan tried for some time to get to the bottom of what was going on and concluded in June 2016, The facts speak less to a scandal and more, perhaps, to an attempt at a smear.
Trump himself said, The allegations are not only categorically false, but disgusting at the highest level and clearly framed to solicit media attention or, perhaps, are simply politically motivated.
All that was before the Access Hollywood tape and before many women had spoken out publicly to accuse Trump of sexual assault. But even after that, the anonymity of Katie Johnson and the sketchiness of her associates kept mainstream US journalists wary about this accusation. She ended up withdrawing her lawsuit days before the 2016 election; her attorney Lisa Bloom said it was because she was getting death threats.
https://www.vox.com/2019/7/9/20686347/jeffrey-epstein-trump-bill-clinton
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It is the original video that was shopped around by a Jerry Springer producer...
jberryhill
Jul 2019
#7
Perhaps we have different ways of figuring out what may or may not be "true"
jberryhill
Jul 2019
#44
Quite obviously federal investigators in New York have done a significant amount of investigation
jberryhill
Jul 2019
#56
Jeesus. Forget about it then. But if they're investigating why not her story and find out...
brush
Jul 2019
#59
Agreed. When she didn't have a real address in California, I stopped treating this as a real case
MaryMagdaline
Jul 2019
#52
The mention of a glove about the 1.40 mark is really telling. So is the enabler remark about "nobody
BSdetect
Jul 2019
#9
And, significantly, this "Katie Johnson" has nothing to do with the Epstein case
jberryhill
Jul 2019
#54
I just used Cohen as an example of one of his enablers, which he undoubtedly was...
brush
Jul 2019
#29
According to the Washington Post, Cohen didn't meet Trump until the late 90s.
cureautismnow
Jul 2019
#64
She claims to have been raped at the same 13-year-old age as Ivanka, which was around 1994.
cureautismnow
Jul 2019
#69
"Roger Stone thinks "Katie's" story is a hoax. How does it feel to agree with him?"
jberryhill
Jul 2019
#79
"Perhaps you allow Roger Stone to decide what your opinions should be, but I don't."
cureautismnow
Jul 2019
#81
"Do you think the people who have threatened to kill her in order to shut her up ..."
cureautismnow
Jul 2019
#83
Touche. I hope you get to take down the tyrant in another future proceeding.
cureautismnow
Jul 2019
#88
The woman being threatened is also supported by other incidents detailed in the last few years.
mackdaddy
Jul 2019
#34
I find this much more credible now than when it was released before the election.
mackdaddy
Jul 2019
#24
Heaven forbid! Might this cost Trumpy at least a fraction of his evangelical support?
ElementaryPenguin
Jul 2019
#32
Wow, he liked her because she looked like his daughter who was also 13 at the time.
redstatebluegirl
Jul 2019
#63