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26. In India, Subhashchandra Bose is controversial

Fri Jul 12, 2019, 11:40 AM

Jul 2019

No one questions his patriotism, however, his methods and alliances were widely scorned - even to this day.

When a lot of Burmese refugees came to India and Indians heard of Japanese atrocities there, no one wanted any part of Bose's mission. His mission fizzled out because there was no popular support for it except in some militant Bengali groups.

Hitler could not have helped the Indian freedom movement. Only Japanese could have and they saw Bose as inferior and were only using him as a tool. Even from a logical perspective, if Hitler had won, India would not have had independence but would have become a Japanese colony instead of the British colony - so Bose's logic was utterly faulty.

Chakraborti, being a descendant of Bengalis probably had grandparents who served with Bose and it gives a window into his mindset -- which is scary. Would he take Russian help to overthrow the mainstream in the US because he is passionate about his cause?

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AOC's Chief-Of-Staff Wears T-Shirt Featuring Nazi Collaborator [View all] George II Jul 2019 OP

This guy is REALLY bad news. AOC is really really foolish not to ditch him without delay. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #1

Strange heroes... Wounded Bear Jul 2019 #2

Evidently his knowledge of American and world history is limited dalton99a Jul 2019 #3

A Bernie staffer eh? That explains a bit. Maru Kitteh Jul 2019 #45

Saikat Chakrabarti is quickly becoming a liability. madaboutharry Jul 2019 #4

She should've shown that leadership by not hiring him to begin with awesomerwb1 Jul 2019 #6

He was probably hoping that no one would have recognized the face, but the Jewish Forward.... George II Jul 2019 #11

This is deteriorating fast BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #5

A Victoria's Secret t-shirt would work in a pinch. nt TexasTowelie Jul 2019 #165

The self victim of extremely superficial historical learning. He needs to resign ... marble falls Jul 2019 #7

He's a problem. AOC has a decision to make. He's the one who tweeted that the... brush Jul 2019 #8

Yes, the certain other BLACK Democrats are like the southern Democrats of the 1940s. George II Jul 2019 #10

Gee, not too subtle with his message there, is he? mcar Jul 2019 #9

OMG nt NYMinute Jul 2019 #12

Context matters. Igel Jul 2019 #20

Thank you for the history lesson. femmedem Jul 2019 #25

Bose was a Nazi collaborator. N/T lapucelle Jul 2019 #43

Wrong, was a Nazi collaborator of the worst sort obamanut2012 Jul 2019 #46

I should have been clearer: femmedem Jul 2019 #124

In India, Subhashchandra Bose is controversial NYMinute Jul 2019 #26

thanks for that Kali Jul 2019 #27

Fine...it is complicated, but a tshirt doesn't allow for nuance. You're representing your candidate AJT Jul 2019 #28

Yep, don't inject your personal politics into your rep's office where it reflects back on her. brush Jul 2019 #109

Bose collaborated and cooperated with the enemy...the Axis powers. lapucelle Jul 2019 #29

He collaborated with both the Japanese in Asia and the Germans in Europe. He ran.... George II Jul 2019 #35

Hitler gave him a submarine. lapucelle Jul 2019 #37

One man's enemy is another man's ally Jake Stern Jul 2019 #61

That is just excusing bad behavior ripcord Jul 2019 #86

Yep. Except not as you intended. Nothing to like about Castro. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #117

His actions were rejected by Indians AT THE TIME . There is no reason to rationalize it now JI7 Jul 2019 #129

Err... he was and is popular in West Bengal (nt) Recursion Jul 2019 #136

maybe that's why West Bengal is in such bad shape JI7 Jul 2019 #137

That's probably more the 30 years of communist state rule Recursion Jul 2019 #138

i have never been there but would like to check it out some day. JI7 Jul 2019 #141

I get that. The ABCD phenomenon is real Recursion Jul 2019 #147

This message was self-deleted by its author PatrickforO Jul 2019 #161

wow ... just wow Vegas Roller Jul 2019 #13

Hell, he's being defended on this thread' GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #112

JHC.. can Chakabarti get Cha Jul 2019 #14

Why would a "progressive democrat" even consider buying that shirt, much less do it, and then..... George II Jul 2019 #16

Serious lapse Cha Jul 2019 #17

Why bother? Igel Jul 2019 #21

Yes, the fact that Bose collaborated with the Axis powere--the Nazis in particular-- lapucelle Jul 2019 #32

How do you feel about FDR collaborating with Stalin? jberryhill Jul 2019 #72

... lapucelle Jul 2019 #76

FDR was never an admirer of Stalin. Both countries were fighting the nazis at the time, and it was still_one Jul 2019 #91

Well said. lapucelle Jul 2019 #93

Should we demand India rename the Kolkata Arioort? jberryhill Jul 2019 #98

Someone might want to ask them to fix the sign so it reads "airport". lapucelle Jul 2019 #99

That's how you say it in Hindi jberryhill Jul 2019 #102

Really? How very interesting. lapucelle Jul 2019 #110

Lol jberryhill Jul 2019 #115

The Hindi is "vimanashri". Bose didn't speak Hindi. Recursion Jul 2019 #140

I'll be he didn't fat-finger an iPhone keyboard either jberryhill Jul 2019 #145

If he did he would have just had the iPhone shot Recursion Jul 2019 #146

I want the t-shirt of that jberryhill Jul 2019 #166

Mahalo, lapucellel! Cha Jul 2019 #101

Mahalo, my friend. lapucelle Jul 2019 #113

I remember clearly how FDR wore a Stalin t-shirt at the Yalta conference still_one Jul 2019 #89

I thought Stalin had gifted him a Che Guevara jberryhill Jul 2019 #90

Touche' still_one Jul 2019 #92

You're still getting it wrong - the US and the USSR were allies against Germany and Japan.... George II Jul 2019 #96

Why would an Indian be interested in supporting the US in WWII? jberryhill Jul 2019 #97

You keep trying to meander off course. I'm sure not many really care what Bose did.... George II Jul 2019 #104

One doesn't hear about "optics" so much anymore. betsuni Jul 2019 #107

That's not really fair. Gandhi has now achieved a form of sainthood, for sure, but back in PatrickforO Jul 2019 #162

I'm curious as to the context, further hearing or elaboration... SidDithers Jul 2019 #59

I'm sure his wife and children liked him. George II Jul 2019 #68

Maybe he was good with pets?...nt SidDithers Jul 2019 #78

LOL!!! greytdemocrat Jul 2019 #131

Maybe the trains ran on time? nt EX500rider Jul 2019 #164

Because Bose is a hero among Indian Bengalis? Recursion Jul 2019 #134

Right, all the shirts in the world to put on in the morning... Captain Zero Jul 2019 #153

Well, that's a little awkward .... OnDoutside Jul 2019 #15

WTF ...... and AOC has fixed any of this how/when????? MFGsunny Jul 2019 #18

Why hasn't the guy been fired? Not a hard choice here. tritsofme Jul 2019 #19

Where some Indian nationalists may see an Indian "freedom fighter," Jews see a Nazi collaborator. DFW Jul 2019 #22

Aren't there many Jewish constituents in her district? brush Jul 2019 #105

Exactly! DFW Jul 2019 #121

She's racking up enemies, calling the Speaker a racist and making a lot of mistakes just 6 months... brush Jul 2019 #122

She SHOULD face a primary DFW Jul 2019 #125

She just might with this COS issue and Jewish constituents. There was also election day confusion... brush Jul 2019 #152

No, they won't DFW Jul 2019 #159

Wow. I don't know what to say - you really seem to despise her. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #163

Stereotypical Millennials, bordering on parody Seeking Serenity Jul 2019 #23

The shirt, and Subhas Chandra Bose meeting with Adolf Hitler: George II Jul 2019 #24

And here's Gandhi meeting with Bose Recursion Jul 2019 #142

You're comparing Adolph Hitler to Louis XVI? George II Jul 2019 #148

That's the point of my post, yes Recursion Jul 2019 #149

Once the Republicans tell people who the guy is, does anyone really think everyone world wide wally Jul 2019 #30

Bose not only collaborated with the Nazis, geardaddy Jul 2019 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Jul 2019 #34

Actually, the Indian National Army was the Japanese version of the Free India Legion geardaddy Jul 2019 #36

Right you are. lapucelle Jul 2019 #40

I wasn't sure either. geardaddy Jul 2019 #41

Thanks. lapucelle Jul 2019 #42

I see Hekate Jul 2019 #33

She'd have to think there was a problem first. comradebillyboy Jul 2019 #39

"All publicity is good publicity." cwydro Jul 2019 #83

My great grandmother came from Ireland for religious and economic freedom. Tech Jul 2019 #44

Love your her-story. ❤️☘ In context, I thought you were going to talk about another Irish thing... Hekate Jul 2019 #50

Big leagues with big stakes! Yeah, that British thing, mom was not allowed to watch Tech Jul 2019 #52

Yep, Washington is the big leagues and "there's no collaborating in baseball/DC." My apologies to... brush Jul 2019 #53

I'm gonna go full baseball movie geek now... SidDithers Jul 2019 #56

Sorry, I stand corrected. "Major League" is my favorite baseball movie. brush Jul 2019 #58

For me it's still Bull Durham... SidDithers Jul 2019 #60

The Natural... lapucelle Jul 2019 #62

"Bull Durham" was good but I swore off Surandon in 2016 so my second is the recent Jackie Robinson.. brush Jul 2019 #88

Betcha nothing will happen to him dalton99a Jul 2019 #38

For the Bose apologists on this thread obamanut2012 Jul 2019 #47

Thanks for that bit of historical perspective. Bose was NOT a "good guy". George II Jul 2019 #48

Yep, the Free India Legion. dalton99a Jul 2019 #51

SHE picked him. democratisphere Jul 2019 #49

I wonder if she had to sign a contract with BNC. lapucelle Jul 2019 #63

The bottom of your graphic is not a mistake, they endorsed republican Ryerse in Arkansas. George II Jul 2019 #65

Many questions have been raised about him. lapucelle Jul 2019 #66

Looks like "dark money" to me. George II Jul 2019 #67

It certainly is a complex schematic. lapucelle Jul 2019 #69

Payments to company owned by Ocasio-Cortez aide come under scrutiny lapucelle Jul 2019 #70

Justice Democrats (Chakrabarti's PAC) paid Brand New Congress LLC (Chakrabarti's OTHER PAC).... George II Jul 2019 #74

so glad to see the RW talking points come out Celerity Jul 2019 #85

I'm sure if you wanted to you could have found non-right wing sources for most, if not all... George II Jul 2019 #100

you are a busy bee, lolol Celerity Jul 2019 #103

Both of those screen shots are responses to posts of yours, so I guess you're just as busy a bee.... George II Jul 2019 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jul 2019 #108

nope nice try, here is my full reply to you on the other thread, this whole story is RW spew Celerity Jul 2019 #114

AOC needs to drop this guy like a handful of molten lava 0rganism Jul 2019 #54

WOW ! stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #55

Nazi collaborators TheRealNorth Jul 2019 #57

She needs to get rid of this person yesterday. nini Jul 2019 #64

Bose may be a hero to some in India, but he won't ever be a hero here in the US struggle4progress Jul 2019 #71

Chakrabarti was born in Fort Worth, graduated from Harvard, and is 32 years old... RHMerriman Jul 2019 #84

Yes, Bose's Indian National Army was fighting against the United States during that time. George II Jul 2019 #111

Correct. RHMerriman Jul 2019 #126

Yes, Chakrabarti should know better struggle4progress Jul 2019 #128

As a traitor by the British and their Indian allies; RHMerriman Jul 2019 #144

Well said. Let's see how AOC deals with the arrogance of her COS paying tribute to a nazi... brush Jul 2019 #156

I can't see any reason for anyone anywhere to admire Bose today struggle4progress Jul 2019 #157

So this explains why AOC is a fascist, yes? jberryhill Jul 2019 #73

Who called her a fascist? I haven't seen that anywhere. George II Jul 2019 #75

Oh, okay jberryhill Jul 2019 #77

Yeah....but I get your point....I think AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #79

You seem to have overlooked the fact that the British were our ally during WWII.... George II Jul 2019 #81

Yeah, and? jberryhill Jul 2019 #82

Who is talking about Stalin t-shirts except you? George II Jul 2019 #87

Whataboutism! mcar Jul 2019 #94

Antidisestablishmentarianism! jberryhill Jul 2019 #95

K&R betsuni Jul 2019 #80

Thank you so much for posting this. Utterly disgusting. grossproffit Jul 2019 #116

I can't believe no one has brought up the real reason he was sporting the Bose T-shirt... GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #118

i think you mean the Che shirts they buy from Hot Topic JI7 Jul 2019 #130

The ones made by child labor and sold at a profit to bougie teenagers? Recursion Jul 2019 #143

Actually I meant Castro. But Che is a good analogy as well. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #150

A socialist perhaps but the nazi and fascism affiliation takes it way past just that. brush Jul 2019 #155

Oh, certainly not excusing wearing it. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #160

That will go over well in labor union halls DashOneBravo Jul 2019 #119

Why does a Bose tee shirt even exist? What... LAS14 Jul 2019 #120

Bose is revered by Hindu nationalists: dalton99a Jul 2019 #123

The airport in Kolkata is named after him. He's considered an important freedom fighter Recursion Jul 2019 #135

Ah. OK, then, remembering us and STalin and the things that... LAS14 Jul 2019 #158

I don't know him JonLP24 Jul 2019 #127

Bose wanted ruthless dictatorship in India, Met with Mussolini during Trip to Europe JI7 Jul 2019 #132

She's going to have to address this. Liberal In Texas Jul 2019 #133

I've gotta be honest, I'm in Kolkata often enough that I wouldn't blink twice at a Netaji shirt Recursion Jul 2019 #139

So AOC will explain that kcr Jul 2019 #151

The Rules mrdkitch Jul 2019 #154