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Hekate

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50. Love your her-story. ❤️☘ In context, I thought you were going to talk about another Irish thing...

Fri Jul 12, 2019, 02:07 PM

Jul 2019

When I was a youngster, my Mom told me that the Irish had done a spot of serious collaboration during WWII, I was aghast. These were our people; how could this be?

She said: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend. That's how much they hated the British."

That's probably the trap some Indians fell into back then: the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Though by now wearing such a T-shirt may seem as harmless as American youth wearing a Che Guevara T-shirt. Plus nobody in America knows, right? So a poke in the eye, but we're too dumb to know.

Except he opens his mouth, calls attention to himself in a big way, and someond does some inconvenient checking. (I've noticed we have a lot of Asian Indians in American journalism in 2019.) AOC's aide is not a college student on a campus any more. Washington DC is the big leagues, where AOC and her staff wanted to be. Different behavior applies.

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AOC's Chief-Of-Staff Wears T-Shirt Featuring Nazi Collaborator [View all] George II Jul 2019 OP

This guy is REALLY bad news. AOC is really really foolish not to ditch him without delay. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #1

Strange heroes... Wounded Bear Jul 2019 #2

Evidently his knowledge of American and world history is limited dalton99a Jul 2019 #3

A Bernie staffer eh? That explains a bit. Maru Kitteh Jul 2019 #45

Saikat Chakrabarti is quickly becoming a liability. madaboutharry Jul 2019 #4

She should've shown that leadership by not hiring him to begin with awesomerwb1 Jul 2019 #6

He was probably hoping that no one would have recognized the face, but the Jewish Forward.... George II Jul 2019 #11

This is deteriorating fast BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #5

A Victoria's Secret t-shirt would work in a pinch. nt TexasTowelie Jul 2019 #165

The self victim of extremely superficial historical learning. He needs to resign ... marble falls Jul 2019 #7

He's a problem. AOC has a decision to make. He's the one who tweeted that the... brush Jul 2019 #8

Yes, the certain other BLACK Democrats are like the southern Democrats of the 1940s. George II Jul 2019 #10

Gee, not too subtle with his message there, is he? mcar Jul 2019 #9

OMG nt NYMinute Jul 2019 #12

Context matters. Igel Jul 2019 #20

Thank you for the history lesson. femmedem Jul 2019 #25

Bose was a Nazi collaborator. N/T lapucelle Jul 2019 #43

Wrong, was a Nazi collaborator of the worst sort obamanut2012 Jul 2019 #46

I should have been clearer: femmedem Jul 2019 #124

In India, Subhashchandra Bose is controversial NYMinute Jul 2019 #26

thanks for that Kali Jul 2019 #27

Fine...it is complicated, but a tshirt doesn't allow for nuance. You're representing your candidate AJT Jul 2019 #28

Yep, don't inject your personal politics into your rep's office where it reflects back on her. brush Jul 2019 #109

Bose collaborated and cooperated with the enemy...the Axis powers. lapucelle Jul 2019 #29

He collaborated with both the Japanese in Asia and the Germans in Europe. He ran.... George II Jul 2019 #35

Hitler gave him a submarine. lapucelle Jul 2019 #37

One man's enemy is another man's ally Jake Stern Jul 2019 #61

That is just excusing bad behavior ripcord Jul 2019 #86

Yep. Except not as you intended. Nothing to like about Castro. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #117

His actions were rejected by Indians AT THE TIME . There is no reason to rationalize it now JI7 Jul 2019 #129

Err... he was and is popular in West Bengal (nt) Recursion Jul 2019 #136

maybe that's why West Bengal is in such bad shape JI7 Jul 2019 #137

That's probably more the 30 years of communist state rule Recursion Jul 2019 #138

i have never been there but would like to check it out some day. JI7 Jul 2019 #141

I get that. The ABCD phenomenon is real Recursion Jul 2019 #147

This message was self-deleted by its author PatrickforO Jul 2019 #161

wow ... just wow Vegas Roller Jul 2019 #13

Hell, he's being defended on this thread' GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #112

JHC.. can Chakabarti get Cha Jul 2019 #14

Why would a "progressive democrat" even consider buying that shirt, much less do it, and then..... George II Jul 2019 #16

Serious lapse Cha Jul 2019 #17

Why bother? Igel Jul 2019 #21

Yes, the fact that Bose collaborated with the Axis powere--the Nazis in particular-- lapucelle Jul 2019 #32

How do you feel about FDR collaborating with Stalin? jberryhill Jul 2019 #72

... lapucelle Jul 2019 #76

FDR was never an admirer of Stalin. Both countries were fighting the nazis at the time, and it was still_one Jul 2019 #91

Well said. lapucelle Jul 2019 #93

Should we demand India rename the Kolkata Arioort? jberryhill Jul 2019 #98

Someone might want to ask them to fix the sign so it reads "airport". lapucelle Jul 2019 #99

That's how you say it in Hindi jberryhill Jul 2019 #102

Really? How very interesting. lapucelle Jul 2019 #110

Lol jberryhill Jul 2019 #115

The Hindi is "vimanashri". Bose didn't speak Hindi. Recursion Jul 2019 #140

I'll be he didn't fat-finger an iPhone keyboard either jberryhill Jul 2019 #145

If he did he would have just had the iPhone shot Recursion Jul 2019 #146

I want the t-shirt of that jberryhill Jul 2019 #166

Mahalo, lapucellel! Cha Jul 2019 #101

Mahalo, my friend. lapucelle Jul 2019 #113

I remember clearly how FDR wore a Stalin t-shirt at the Yalta conference still_one Jul 2019 #89

I thought Stalin had gifted him a Che Guevara jberryhill Jul 2019 #90

Touche' still_one Jul 2019 #92

You're still getting it wrong - the US and the USSR were allies against Germany and Japan.... George II Jul 2019 #96

Why would an Indian be interested in supporting the US in WWII? jberryhill Jul 2019 #97

You keep trying to meander off course. I'm sure not many really care what Bose did.... George II Jul 2019 #104

One doesn't hear about "optics" so much anymore. betsuni Jul 2019 #107

That's not really fair. Gandhi has now achieved a form of sainthood, for sure, but back in PatrickforO Jul 2019 #162

I'm curious as to the context, further hearing or elaboration... SidDithers Jul 2019 #59

I'm sure his wife and children liked him. George II Jul 2019 #68

Maybe he was good with pets?...nt SidDithers Jul 2019 #78

LOL!!! greytdemocrat Jul 2019 #131

Maybe the trains ran on time? nt EX500rider Jul 2019 #164

Because Bose is a hero among Indian Bengalis? Recursion Jul 2019 #134

Right, all the shirts in the world to put on in the morning... Captain Zero Jul 2019 #153

Well, that's a little awkward .... OnDoutside Jul 2019 #15

WTF ...... and AOC has fixed any of this how/when????? MFGsunny Jul 2019 #18

Why hasn't the guy been fired? Not a hard choice here. tritsofme Jul 2019 #19

Where some Indian nationalists may see an Indian "freedom fighter," Jews see a Nazi collaborator. DFW Jul 2019 #22

Aren't there many Jewish constituents in her district? brush Jul 2019 #105

Exactly! DFW Jul 2019 #121

She's racking up enemies, calling the Speaker a racist and making a lot of mistakes just 6 months... brush Jul 2019 #122

She SHOULD face a primary DFW Jul 2019 #125

She just might with this COS issue and Jewish constituents. There was also election day confusion... brush Jul 2019 #152

No, they won't DFW Jul 2019 #159

Wow. I don't know what to say - you really seem to despise her. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #163

Stereotypical Millennials, bordering on parody Seeking Serenity Jul 2019 #23

The shirt, and Subhas Chandra Bose meeting with Adolf Hitler: George II Jul 2019 #24

And here's Gandhi meeting with Bose Recursion Jul 2019 #142

You're comparing Adolph Hitler to Louis XVI? George II Jul 2019 #148

That's the point of my post, yes Recursion Jul 2019 #149

Once the Republicans tell people who the guy is, does anyone really think everyone world wide wally Jul 2019 #30

Bose not only collaborated with the Nazis, geardaddy Jul 2019 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Jul 2019 #34

Actually, the Indian National Army was the Japanese version of the Free India Legion geardaddy Jul 2019 #36

Right you are. lapucelle Jul 2019 #40

I wasn't sure either. geardaddy Jul 2019 #41

Thanks. lapucelle Jul 2019 #42

I see Hekate Jul 2019 #33

She'd have to think there was a problem first. comradebillyboy Jul 2019 #39

"All publicity is good publicity." cwydro Jul 2019 #83

My great grandmother came from Ireland for religious and economic freedom. Tech Jul 2019 #44

Love your her-story. ❤️☘ In context, I thought you were going to talk about another Irish thing... Hekate Jul 2019 #50

Big leagues with big stakes! Yeah, that British thing, mom was not allowed to watch Tech Jul 2019 #52

Yep, Washington is the big leagues and "there's no collaborating in baseball/DC." My apologies to... brush Jul 2019 #53

I'm gonna go full baseball movie geek now... SidDithers Jul 2019 #56

Sorry, I stand corrected. "Major League" is my favorite baseball movie. brush Jul 2019 #58

For me it's still Bull Durham... SidDithers Jul 2019 #60

The Natural... lapucelle Jul 2019 #62

"Bull Durham" was good but I swore off Surandon in 2016 so my second is the recent Jackie Robinson.. brush Jul 2019 #88

Betcha nothing will happen to him dalton99a Jul 2019 #38

For the Bose apologists on this thread obamanut2012 Jul 2019 #47

Thanks for that bit of historical perspective. Bose was NOT a "good guy". George II Jul 2019 #48

Yep, the Free India Legion. dalton99a Jul 2019 #51

SHE picked him. democratisphere Jul 2019 #49

I wonder if she had to sign a contract with BNC. lapucelle Jul 2019 #63

The bottom of your graphic is not a mistake, they endorsed republican Ryerse in Arkansas. George II Jul 2019 #65

Many questions have been raised about him. lapucelle Jul 2019 #66

Looks like "dark money" to me. George II Jul 2019 #67

It certainly is a complex schematic. lapucelle Jul 2019 #69

Payments to company owned by Ocasio-Cortez aide come under scrutiny lapucelle Jul 2019 #70

Justice Democrats (Chakrabarti's PAC) paid Brand New Congress LLC (Chakrabarti's OTHER PAC).... George II Jul 2019 #74

so glad to see the RW talking points come out Celerity Jul 2019 #85

I'm sure if you wanted to you could have found non-right wing sources for most, if not all... George II Jul 2019 #100

you are a busy bee, lolol Celerity Jul 2019 #103

Both of those screen shots are responses to posts of yours, so I guess you're just as busy a bee.... George II Jul 2019 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jul 2019 #108

nope nice try, here is my full reply to you on the other thread, this whole story is RW spew Celerity Jul 2019 #114

AOC needs to drop this guy like a handful of molten lava 0rganism Jul 2019 #54

WOW ! stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #55

Nazi collaborators TheRealNorth Jul 2019 #57

She needs to get rid of this person yesterday. nini Jul 2019 #64

Bose may be a hero to some in India, but he won't ever be a hero here in the US struggle4progress Jul 2019 #71

Chakrabarti was born in Fort Worth, graduated from Harvard, and is 32 years old... RHMerriman Jul 2019 #84

Yes, Bose's Indian National Army was fighting against the United States during that time. George II Jul 2019 #111

Correct. RHMerriman Jul 2019 #126

Yes, Chakrabarti should know better struggle4progress Jul 2019 #128

As a traitor by the British and their Indian allies; RHMerriman Jul 2019 #144

Well said. Let's see how AOC deals with the arrogance of her COS paying tribute to a nazi... brush Jul 2019 #156

I can't see any reason for anyone anywhere to admire Bose today struggle4progress Jul 2019 #157

So this explains why AOC is a fascist, yes? jberryhill Jul 2019 #73

Who called her a fascist? I haven't seen that anywhere. George II Jul 2019 #75

Oh, okay jberryhill Jul 2019 #77

Yeah....but I get your point....I think AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #79

You seem to have overlooked the fact that the British were our ally during WWII.... George II Jul 2019 #81

Yeah, and? jberryhill Jul 2019 #82

Who is talking about Stalin t-shirts except you? George II Jul 2019 #87

Whataboutism! mcar Jul 2019 #94

Antidisestablishmentarianism! jberryhill Jul 2019 #95

K&R betsuni Jul 2019 #80

Thank you so much for posting this. Utterly disgusting. grossproffit Jul 2019 #116

I can't believe no one has brought up the real reason he was sporting the Bose T-shirt... GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #118

i think you mean the Che shirts they buy from Hot Topic JI7 Jul 2019 #130

The ones made by child labor and sold at a profit to bougie teenagers? Recursion Jul 2019 #143

Actually I meant Castro. But Che is a good analogy as well. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #150

A socialist perhaps but the nazi and fascism affiliation takes it way past just that. brush Jul 2019 #155

Oh, certainly not excusing wearing it. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #160

That will go over well in labor union halls DashOneBravo Jul 2019 #119

Why does a Bose tee shirt even exist? What... LAS14 Jul 2019 #120

Bose is revered by Hindu nationalists: dalton99a Jul 2019 #123

The airport in Kolkata is named after him. He's considered an important freedom fighter Recursion Jul 2019 #135

Ah. OK, then, remembering us and STalin and the things that... LAS14 Jul 2019 #158

I don't know him JonLP24 Jul 2019 #127

Bose wanted ruthless dictatorship in India, Met with Mussolini during Trip to Europe JI7 Jul 2019 #132

She's going to have to address this. Liberal In Texas Jul 2019 #133

I've gotta be honest, I'm in Kolkata often enough that I wouldn't blink twice at a Netaji shirt Recursion Jul 2019 #139

So AOC will explain that kcr Jul 2019 #151

The Rules mrdkitch Jul 2019 #154