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In reply to the discussion: I'll be blunt. Democrats help "normalize" Trump if we wait for an election to hold him accountable [View all]Tom Rinaldo
(22,980 posts)130. True that it is not politically a clear cut no brainer
Personally I think Trump would get far more leverage out of saying that Democrats, who control the House, tacitly concede that it was all about "presidential harassment" and "a witch hunt" if even they know that there are no valid grounds to impeach him (which is how he would make the point if we don't impeach). The failure to even impeach after an exhaustive investigation is the ultimate exoneration for Trump. I'll take our chances fighting on the merits of the issue after the hearings have been widely broadcast to the nation. Let the public then decide which side is motivated by purely partisan concerns.
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I'll be blunt. Democrats help "normalize" Trump if we wait for an election to hold him accountable [View all]
Tom Rinaldo
Jul 2019
OP
Drama drives ratings, and the media must serve their masters who want to keep their tax cuts
dalton99a
Jul 2019
#10
They have been normalizing him for the last 3 years, so yes there has been a normalizing of him.
Autumn
Jul 2019
#12
I agree 100%. All one has to do is read the Mueller report to draw this conclusion. There's
KPN
Jul 2019
#7
I'm saying I believe there is greater risk in not doing so ... and not doing sooner than later.
KPN
Jul 2019
#106
He will have established a dictatorship for sure by then. Our republic will be gone for good.
triron
Jul 2019
#20
Well. there are ways in which average voters do hold presidents accountable, but
Tom Rinaldo
Jul 2019
#22
Yes, and that is precisely why we elect Representatives from local districts to Congress
Tom Rinaldo
Jul 2019
#27
Not only, will Mueller even get to 'a testimony'? And what will be the result?
sprinkleeninow
Jul 2019
#74
We need to stop acting like we're living in anything remotely like normal times.
Paladin
Jul 2019
#23
It would also put the whole sordid mess on the national & local news. And smack on the GOP.
CrispyQ
Jul 2019
#45
I think that's why we're seeing Beto and Buttigieg running this time around. Planning for the future
jalan48
Jul 2019
#39
I think it's about future elections. They are getting face recognition this time around.
jalan48
Jul 2019
#160
Trump already has been normalized by inaction. Why is it that most the people on DU are shocked
Doodley
Jul 2019
#44
It isn't about having control of the house. It is about finding an effective way to
Doodley
Jul 2019
#55
Well, formally "acquitting" trump in Senate, and maybe even the House, sure won't help. eom
Hoyt
Jul 2019
#51
Simple. He should face all of the legal consequences that his actions warrant
Tom Rinaldo
Jul 2019
#82
Politically more Republican Senators would risk losing seats for standing by Trump after impeachment
Tom Rinaldo
Jul 2019
#88
Deserting Trump would hurt Republican Senators in States that they could not otherwise lose
Tom Rinaldo
Jul 2019
#92
Agree with you 100%. These are not normal times, and Trump is not a normal President.
Bluepinky
Jul 2019
#87
If you are afraid to impeach because you think you will lose the election because of it,
world wide wally
Jul 2019
#95
We keep making Constitutional arguments as if the Constitution will stand up to what is happening.
gulliver
Jul 2019
#112
Removal is not possible...thus it is a waste of time and money and could cost us the house...as
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#115
We may not be able to remove but we can impeach, which is not a waste of time.
SunSeeker
Jul 2019
#118
You can investigate and showcase Trump's crimes without turning off moderates in states
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#156
No we can't, as is evident. Why would an impeachment inquiry turn off moderates?
SunSeeker
Jul 2019
#159
If we lose the house and he wins again...it would be a disaster...too big a risk. If we could remove
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#155
You won't hurt him...those you could reach in order to hurt him or already on our side...the others
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#153
Unfortunately, our leadership is running out the clock, IMO. Grave mistake.
Nevermypresident
Jul 2019
#131
Not so. There's too much fault put on Democrats when the public has every right to allow its govt
ancianita
Jul 2019
#123
I say that the continued normalization of Trump has an easier path forward without impeachment
Tom Rinaldo
Jul 2019
#132
Totally agree. To me, the words like "we" and "normalizing" make it problematic at this point.
ancianita
Jul 2019
#133
Yes, the public can speak out, and the public can vote, and the public should and has done both
Tom Rinaldo
Jul 2019
#135
It exposes a corrupt and fully complicit Republican Party in time for the 2020 elections.
Tom Rinaldo
Jul 2019
#136
Historically the party of the impeached has never fared well in elections post impeachment when ....
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#154