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Bettie

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51. Well, given that he keeps "joking" about

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:36 PM

Jul 2019

being in office for 12-20 more years, I doubt he's planning on leaving.

And from what we've seen so far, I don't think anyone will have the will to physically remove him and his minions when his term is up one way or the other.

Plus, Democrats are generally nice and if the next election happens AND we manage to win despite what will very likely be widespread and extreme cheating on various levels (up to and probably including outright election fraud), whoever becomes president will likely make some speech about "healing and coming together as a nation" and then pardon him.

As I said, I know nothing will happen. I expect that he'll become president for life before the next election.

If I'm wrong, all for the better. Prepare for the worst.

I thought I had, but then, I thought that laws were a thing and the House had oversight powers, so what do I know?

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Michael Hayden: America May Not Survive a Second Trump Term [View all] CousinIT Jul 2019 OP

I agree with him. marybourg Jul 2019 #1

I am beginning to believe handmade34 Jul 2019 #2

This is my fear as well. That we've teetered over some tipping point Maru Kitteh Jul 2019 #7

My fear as well. n/t Different Drummer Jul 2019 #37

Another VERY NOTABLE statement in this conversation from Hayden: CousinIT Jul 2019 #3

Wow .that is just crazy. How in the world could it help him? That has Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #8

Impeachment proceedings should begin, so that all his crimes are known. Bluepinky Jul 2019 #14

Perfectly stated! Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #22

I agree with your post. bdamomma Jul 2019 #53

If not impeachment proceedings then it must be an impeachment inquiry. nt in2herbs Jul 2019 #57

Yes, an inquiry to start. Let's get everything out in the open and take it from there. Bluepinky Jul 2019 #76

People have been wondering aloud about that for some time. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #17

Remain quiet for fear people will blame the innocent for calling Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #23

That seems to cover it Bettie Jul 2019 #29

It's absurd Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #35

It is. bdamomma Jul 2019 #55

The logic behind all possible options would be to save our nation. Hortensis Jul 2019 #25

Trump cheated once to get in office Poiuyt Jul 2019 #11

Yes, too risky to wait for 2020. And a lot of people can be hurt or killed before then. Bluepinky Jul 2019 #16

What are you suggesting be done? You know impeachment won't remove him from office. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #18

We need to begin impeachment hearings to expose and publicize all his crimes. Bluepinky Jul 2019 #26

The Senate will never vote to remove him, unless the Democrats get the super majority. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #27

Open impeachment hearings. Impeachment is about the rule of law, not politics. Bluepinky Jul 2019 #30

Nadler fainted at the microphone. They are at their peak of handling these things. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #31

I don't know the answer either, but we need to put a check on this President. Bluepinky Jul 2019 #32

Impeachment does not "put a check" on Trump. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #41

If he's impeached and voted out of office, that will put a check on him. Bluepinky Jul 2019 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #81

If impeachment investigation is opened, Dems will have access to whatever documents they ask for Bluepinky Jul 2019 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #84

I disagree. I think impeachment will have a huge impact on the electorate in the upcoming election Bluepinky Jul 2019 #88

he's got Putin in his corner. bdamomma Jul 2019 #56

impeachment would not help get him elected Skittles Jul 2019 #24

That's what you THINK. No one knows. It WILL rev his base, and give him justification.... Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #28

His base is already revved up durablend Jul 2019 #33

As are we. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #40

Do you know for 100% certain that Bettie Jul 2019 #36

No. That was exactly my point. Except we do know for sure that impeachment won't remove him. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #39

Actually, everyone I know is looking for an Bettie Jul 2019 #42

There are already investigations going on. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #45

It would allow access Bettie Jul 2019 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #48

Well, given that he keeps "joking" about Bettie Jul 2019 #51

there will be a confrontation if he dissolves any sort of free society. bdamomma Jul 2019 #59

I've avoided watching it Bettie Jul 2019 #60

even at the darkest time bdamomma Jul 2019 #62

I hope so Bettie Jul 2019 #67

you know Bettie bdamomma Jul 2019 #77

I call my rep weekly Bettie Jul 2019 #80

I think we got to continue doing that bdamomma Jul 2019 #83

Yep. Making my newly minted adult son Bettie Jul 2019 #85

The House oversight committee IS investigating criminality. Impeachment is POLITICAL. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #66

Light will help those who don't pay a great deal of attention Bettie Jul 2019 #68

Right. That's what the investigations might do....get him indicted when he leaves office. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #69

Do you honestly believe that the election will be Bettie Jul 2019 #70

No. If we win by a large margin, we might overcome the rigging. One argument that makes sense ... Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #73

That argument is the thing I fear Bettie Jul 2019 #74

The coverage - that's true. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #75

so the voters bdamomma Jul 2019 #49

As if this country will survive even one full Trump term. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #4

Exactly. nancy1942 Jul 2019 #58

Thank the gods he's back Get Me Outta Here Jul 2019 #5

Thank you for your contribution. Welcome to Democratic Underground. I'll watch for your posts. NBachers Jul 2019 #19

... handmade34 Jul 2019 #43

May Not? Dem Dean Jul 2019 #6

We may not survive one Trump term. smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #9

too long to wait until November 2020 bdamomma Jul 2019 #50

I agree. n/t PatrickforO Jul 2019 #10

Trump has been "joking" a little too much about having a third or fourth term Poiuyt Jul 2019 #12

He would like to be President for Life. Different Drummer Jul 2019 #38

Not to be flip bdamomma Jul 2019 #61

Sadly, I have to agree with you. Different Drummer Jul 2019 #71

Right? Bettie Jul 2019 #47

Banish the thought of a second term. Aussie105 Jul 2019 #13

I am prepared to fight for any state ready to secede if Dump steals the election. roamer65 Jul 2019 #15

for some strange reason bdamomma Jul 2019 #64

Putin is fueling the separatism. roamer65 Jul 2019 #87

"-he blames our manipulative news media, specifically Fox News, and gullible population, more-" misanthrope Jul 2019 #20

Global human civilization won't survive another Trump term NickB79 Jul 2019 #21

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America may not survive his first term. spanone Jul 2019 #34

What a coincidence! not_the_one Jul 2019 #44

Too late. Hugin Jul 2019 #52

I'm worried about his only term C_U_L8R Jul 2019 #54

I agree completely with this author BlueMississippi Jul 2019 #63

This country is changed... stillcool Jul 2019 #72

Republicans bdamomma Jul 2019 #79

I have a feeling it won't change much for the multi-corporations, big banks and oligarchs though. jalan48 Jul 2019 #86