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33. A "racism vote" won't end with an acquittal in the Senate and an end to investigations

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 09:06 PM

Jul 2019

But I do love watching people who've been demanding that the House MUST impeach NOW even if it won't remove him from office because they must make a STATEMENT about his corruption respond to the House making a statement about Trump's racism by shrugging their shoulders and muttering "Meh! It's not going to change anything, so it's a waste of time ..."

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Nancy Pelosi just played Donald Trump and the House GOP like a fiddle [View all] mcar Jul 2019 OP

So... please be remember this, how she stood up to dotard, and for her members. Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #1

+1 mcar Jul 2019 #2

Give Folks a Day or Two and They'll Be Right Back to Second Guessing Pelosi. Indykatie Jul 2019 #5

Correct! murielm99 Jul 2019 #11

I Don't Need a Day or Two ProfessionalLeft Jul 2019 #73

Trump remains in power even if impeachment proceedings are begun StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #77

I'm Well Aware Of That ProfessionalLeft Jul 2019 #80

I don't necessarily disagree with you that he should be impeached StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #82

And I Don't Necessarily Disagree With You ProfessionalLeft Jul 2019 #86

This wasn't about taking Trump down. This was about standing up for her caucus StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #94

As I Said... ProfessionalLeft Jul 2019 #101

+1! mcar Jul 2019 #138

I know how you feel, but I've decided to trust Pelosi's political instincts. Chemisse Jul 2019 #108

How would we lose the election by impeaching? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #118

Here is what Trump could argue if we impeached (and of course the Senate voted down): Chemisse Jul 2019 #120

That's why I support the idea of just taking the Mueller Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #122

The Barr rollout of the report was a disaster for us. Chemisse Jul 2019 #129

Yes, that was played perfectly. Yet we will never know Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #137

Good post, FoxNewsSucks Jul 2019 #147

This whole thread is full of smart analysis. Can't disagree with this assessment. joost5 Jul 2019 #158

I meant this reply to be for this post. Oops! FoxNewsSucks Jul 2019 #159

Why would it put a halt into the investigations? On the contrary, it would open the vaults Perseus Jul 2019 #114

Once an impeachment is completed, there will be no more investigations StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #155

Please read starfishsaver's post #77, just below yours. This is correct. it won't rid us of him Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #81

Professional left ... DaDeacon Jul 2019 #156

They need to focus DownriverDem Jul 2019 #171

Indeedy. blue neen Jul 2019 #3

It does feel like he walked right into it. Baitball Blogger Jul 2019 #4

So much for the "strategy" mcar Jul 2019 #6

So the strategy was to make it him against the "socialists". Chemisse Jul 2019 #109

And got House Rs on record as supporting racism mcar Jul 2019 #139

More like he stepped IN it. George II Jul 2019 #12

It's great because it passed... Mike Nelson Jul 2019 #7

So the "chaotic spectacle" in the House today Control-Z Jul 2019 #8

and...and this is a big and...people in this country who don't pay much Raven Jul 2019 #9

Dems have a lot of fodder for ads mcar Jul 2019 #141

She played the GOP like a fiddle. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #10

Good job as usual Nancy. comradebillyboy Jul 2019 #13

Well played. brer cat Jul 2019 #14

And it got everyone talking about him again. Vdizzle Jul 2019 #15

This does nothing angrychair Jul 2019 #16

What about Trump's taxes and Deutsche Bank records? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #26

You have no idea what's going on. This is for the record: rule of law vs scofflaw; party vs party. ancianita Jul 2019 #60

Thanks, ancianita, for your perceptive and intelligent post. I'm tired of the Pelosi pot- shotters. NBachers Jul 2019 #68

Yes thank you.. me too sick and tired of arm chair politicians snarking at Speaker Pelosi Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #84

To be clear angrychair Jul 2019 #151

IF running out the clock is all we got ... LenaBaby61 Jul 2019 #165

I'm very aware of who trump is angrychair Jul 2019 #78

Absolutely no need? What kind of 2020 turnout are you imagining. I'm seeing people who aren't ancianita Jul 2019 #97

You think the Speaker taking the rare step of censuring a president because of racist comments he StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #99

It wasn't a censuring....it was a resolution to condem the tweets & comments AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #166

You are SO right! And the critical flaw is the demoralizing Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #115

You're absolutely right brutus smith Jul 2019 #144

very good insight bdamomma Jul 2019 #123

Well said! mcar Jul 2019 #142

neither will impeachment, as long as Moscow Mitch runs that show. nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #126

I respectfully disagree angrychair Jul 2019 #140

I respectfully disagree Baltimike Jul 2019 #167

Sorry, what? angrychair Jul 2019 #168

To be a bit more clear... Baltimike Jul 2019 #169

I'm generally not keen on the Palmer Report Brother Buzz Jul 2019 #17

I hope that Madame Pelosi created a learning moment for herself. Goodheart Jul 2019 #18

No so not worth losing the house...and having the dotard win a second term...when he will stay after Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #22

She won't lose the House any more with an impeachment vote than she did today with a racism vote. Goodheart Jul 2019 #24

A "racism vote" won't end with an acquittal in the Senate and an end to investigations StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #33

Agree! madam speaker stood up to racism and publicly supported her members. Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #85

Well said nt Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #127

Nothing is ever enough for some, SS mcar Jul 2019 #143

Bingo! StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #157

Yep. Too many just look for something to complain about NastyRiffraff Jul 2019 #170

Yep. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #89

Impeachment isn't popular and those who believe that magically, the country will wake up and support Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #135

That is not true...impeachment is not popular and we are too close to an election...you might feel Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #132

Holding criminal scum accountable will NOT lose the House. FoxNewsSucks Jul 2019 #55

Tell that to the 20 or so House Dems Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #128

Exactly...people need to consider the political implications of impeaching Trump...and they could Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #133

like Katie Porter? FoxNewsSucks Jul 2019 #148

And she is just one vote nt Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #154

Moderates gave us the house...in their districts...impeachment is not popular period...Impeaching Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #131

"Moderation" cost us in 2010 FoxNewsSucks Jul 2019 #149

No it didn't Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #153

People on the left cost us 2010...there was no way to get a single payer or a public option and Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #162

The Speaker doesn't need to create a "learning moment" for herself. She knows what she's doing StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #28

Amen! pazzyanne Jul 2019 #45

StarfishSaver, you've turned into one of the posters I rely on for well-informed perspective. NBachers Jul 2019 #69

I've been reading his posts for months ProfessionalLeft Jul 2019 #113

+1000 RelativelyJones Jul 2019 #79

"and trying to explain to her how she should do her job" true that (NT) stopdiggin Jul 2019 #163

Well done, Madam Speaker Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2019 #19

Republicans looked like they didn't know what they were doing. betsuni Jul 2019 #20

I have a theory on that... TheCowsCameHome Jul 2019 #23

What happens when Republicans are in charge: betsuni Jul 2019 #31

That's hysterical, and to think it was produced 8 years ago, before things got MUCH worse. George II Jul 2019 #121

Nancy had them on the ropes! Cha Jul 2019 #103

That first tweet! betsuni Jul 2019 #105

They don't get it.. pure and simple. Cha Jul 2019 #106

Me too. betsuni Jul 2019 #107

Hooray! PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #21

I assume you ask the same question about impeachment? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #29

Love it! Don't call out the criminal because you're Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #43

Good one !!! He could not care less. Being one Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #39

Hoarse says: Ponietz Jul 2019 #46

Unless I missed it he's been MIGHTY quiet ever since the vote. Steaming I suspect. George II Jul 2019 #25

Being essentially censured by the House BlueIdaho Jul 2019 #32

I think this fell just short of censure, but historically they are not too different.... George II Jul 2019 #48

Great background info! BlueIdaho Jul 2019 #100

Good Me. Jul 2019 #27

GOP, what countries do you want the four democrat Congresswomen to return to? keithbvadu2 Jul 2019 #30

Democratic congresswomen, not democrat. (n/t) SMC22307 Jul 2019 #57

cue tweetstorm in the morning , in 5.4.3.2.1. AllaN01Bear Jul 2019 #34

I'm not against the resolution obviously but I hope people don't think of this as some end SweetieD Jul 2019 #35

True. The guy doesn't even care about laws or justice Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #38

tRump does care about his fragile ego, and this will sting! pazzyanne Jul 2019 #47

Refresh my memory on the brilliant acts? I do respect Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #50

If you play chess, you will understand. pazzyanne Jul 2019 #52

Why dodge the question? SMC22307 Jul 2019 #58

Do you play chess or checkers? pazzyanne Jul 2019 #66

May be like the move to block Trump's Emergency money stealing? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #112

That is part of it. pazzyanne Jul 2019 #117

I was being facetious. Sadly. Trump's most effective Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #125

It is chess vs checkers. pazzyanne Jul 2019 #160

Throw the rubber stamp dolt, jamie herrera-beutler out on her lazy butt... Hulk Jul 2019 #36

the western border of WA-3 (the ocean) is the only Rethug-held part of the entire Pacific Coast Celerity Jul 2019 #40

A sad distinction. Hulk Jul 2019 #64

thanks for the background, and I would have assumed that Vancouver, due to being right across the Celerity Jul 2019 #71

Ooops...guess I was wrong about Long having been a state Senator. Hulk Jul 2019 #75

Vantucky, heh. MarvinGardens Jul 2019 #102

#impeachtrump Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #37

K & R Iliyah Jul 2019 #41

His "brilliant" strategy backfires again. Chemisse Jul 2019 #111

Madame Speaker demigoddess Jul 2019 #42

It's settled Aussie105 Jul 2019 #44

11. Hold KAC, et al., in contempt for ignoring subpoenas Ponietz Jul 2019 #49

I definitely would add the Epstein connections. I personally dewsgirl Jul 2019 #53

This is a distraction. Agreed. Aussie105 Jul 2019 #62

He will always twist it so that in his own little mind he wins Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #88

Ok. Maybe she can join zentrum Jul 2019 #51

Just one small correction lunatica Jul 2019 #54

Perhaps even more powerful than the actual vote was the vote against the republicans... George II Jul 2019 #56

I Don't Get RobinA Jul 2019 #59

I assume you feel the same way about impeachment? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #61

Depends On What RobinA Jul 2019 #116

Do people honestly believe this makes any difference? tymorial Jul 2019 #63

Why do you think this resolution is worthless but impeachment without removal StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #65

That is easy to answer angrychair Jul 2019 #72

Impeachment without conviction has no more legal ramifications than a resolution StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #76

+ JI7 Jul 2019 #83

Not true. I thought you were the expert. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #95

I do know this topic well StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #98

Hummm, yes I would like an answer to that as well Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #90

It's not useless jrandom421 Jul 2019 #67

It makes all the difference. Today is about what mcar's post said. I'll add what I told angrychair. ancianita Jul 2019 #70

Thank you!! Great voice, great reasoning.. maybe you should run for office!! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #91

And to bolster your argument... people are assuming there Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #119

Oh yes the Grand Master Plan. tymorial Jul 2019 #146

Some are pushing the idea that the ones privy to Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #150

tell us how we do this. again. stopdiggin Jul 2019 #164

No politician who gets into Twitter feuds with their own party members is "brilliant." MadDAsHell Jul 2019 #74

If you are speaking about madam speaker... that just isn't the case. Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #92

No Politician Who RobinA Jul 2019 #161

That's great. I gave the dotard my middle finger today and called the repukes racists. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #87

No... you are not playing chess ..yet. Speaker Pelosi is playing the long game. You cannot Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #93

I think this was a good win. egduj Jul 2019 #96

Nancy took point. Hell yeah. forgotmylogin Jul 2019 #104

I simply don't agree... BlueJac Jul 2019 #110

Ya, but only because the dick wad opened his mouth and let his racism fly. Hotler Jul 2019 #124

And the name of the game is his approvals. Evidently Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #130

I hoping he screws up big by letting the N-word fly. nt Hotler Jul 2019 #134

Was just thinking about that. Remember there Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #136

I stand with Pelosi - she did a good job. Joe941 Jul 2019 #145

Yes, Madame Speaker!...now let's beat him like a drum! Guilded Lilly Jul 2019 #152