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In reply to the discussion: Nancy Pelosi just played Donald Trump and the House GOP like a fiddle [View all]tymorial
(3,433 posts)I don't. Trump has maintained a consistent base of supporters who will defend him no matter what he does, what he says or what he tweets. We are not talking about a small number. More than 30% will defend him, vote for him and vote for Republicans regardless of racism, bigotry, misogyny or homophobia. We already knew that the gross majority of Republicans will never get behind any attempt at censure, impeachment or removal. So what did this accomplish? Putting their apathy or outright support on record? The people who recognize Trump and the republicans for what they are have already made up their minds. Our opponents have already done the same. The rest are living in some delusional world where current events doesnt matter or they cant be bothered to be informed. I truly dont believe this will register. They would have already been aware from numerous instances of Trump and republican impropriety.
I do believe that Nancy Pelosi is far more intelligent, sophisticated and honorable than Trump. That being said, while I respect her, she has shown nothing which attributes the notion that she has some grand plan to deal with Trump. I see no evidence of this what so ever. She may be hoping that the Republicans change their tune on impeachment and removal but she has to know deep down that isnt going to happen. There will be no impeachment and Trump will never go to prison.
This is all terrible and horrible. I believe the house and senate have abandoned their oath. .I believe this is the case for BOTH parties and I am aware how much those words piss people off here. Prove me wrong. Show me where Congress is discharging their duty to hold the president to account for his numerous crimes. No, committee investigations dont count unless they reach the general assembly.
I dont hate Nancy Pelosi but her continual denial of impeachment as an option is unacceptable. It is a breach of office. Yeah I said breach. She took an oath. TRUMP has abandoned his duty and it's up to her to hold him to account. If she doesnt have support in her own party, send the whip to convince them. This is it. There is no master plan. She isnt yoda and she isnt playing some advanced level of GO. She is the speaker and she intends on keeping the house. That is ALL she is intending.
If this offends well I am sorry. There is just no master plan and I am tired of hearing about how ther is.
We need to rail against this reality or just accept that the constitution is largely meaningless when it comes to separation of powers and also accept that the president has autocratic powers because our elected officials place party over oath or have no backbone to actually make the hard calls.
Rant off