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Farmer-Rick

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33. Nope

Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:56 PM

Jul 2019

The ACA, which Trump has stripped of most of its cost cutting benefits, gives No One health care or insurance. It did for awhile force some full time employers to provide it but that quickly stopped.

Medicare is only for us old folks.

Medicade in most states only helps the poorest of the poor, poor. Which means most average poor people don't qualify.

Most employers in retail, cleaning services or restaurant work, where the majority of the poor work, don"t provide any healthcare at all. They especially don't provide sick time to visit a doctor anyway.

Oh I stand corrected, if you are poor you actually have 3 choices. Get crappy useless health insurance, get nothing at all, or hurry up and die.

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This is an old article from The Guardian, but it says the NHS is doing some pretty extreme rationing [View all] still_one Jul 2019 OP

The Tories want to privatize healthcare so they are starving it of funds. zooks Jul 2019 #1

It sounds like it is a major crisis, and a lot of folks are being denied care they need still_one Jul 2019 #2

Why do millions of Americans vote for a corrupt sleazy billionaire who doesn't zooks Jul 2019 #8

Touche sir, touche. Caliman73 Jul 2019 #13

The Democratic nominee won the popular vote HERE still_one Jul 2019 #16

The salient point is that tens of millions of Americans voted for that POS. zooks Jul 2019 #19

aided by foriegn interference, Comey's violation of the Hatch Act, along with those wonderful still_one Jul 2019 #23

Except we don't elect leaders through the popular vote. Caliman73 Jul 2019 #22

That may be the point, but it ignore the very relevent fact that there was foreign still_one Jul 2019 #24

WE DIDN'T. The Democratic nominee won the popular vote as if you didn't know that still_one Jul 2019 #15

61,943,670 people voted for Trump. Where did I say anything about the popular vote? zooks Jul 2019 #26

What?? Rightwing...neo-liberal....which is it? AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #3

neo-liberalism is a center right ideology. Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #5

LOL Those who embrace neo-liberal economics are on the Right. zooks Jul 2019 #6

2 questions... AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #12

I'm Canadian and support our health care system 100% zooks Jul 2019 #18

Gotcha.... AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #28

You're pulling stuff out of thin air. I've stated NO beliefs about weaponizing ticks. zooks Jul 2019 #35

No..actualy you did.. AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #36

Neoliberalism is right-wing economics. PETRUS Jul 2019 #9

I'm sure there is "rationing" going on. But, people here have tougher rationing without insurance. Hoyt Jul 2019 #4

Canada doesn't cover drugs but they negotiate prices with the manufacturers so they pnwmom Jul 2019 #10

Cataract surgery is fully covered by Medicare, for monofocal IOL still_one Jul 2019 #17

You have to meet certain vision issues to get cataract surgery under Medicare rules. Hoyt Jul 2019 #27

Absolutely correct, however, that is not a outrageous criteria, and it is easily supported still_one Jul 2019 #29

This is real. They could do better. I don't think the NHS is the best example pnwmom Jul 2019 #7

Yes it is real, but it has a reason and the reason isn't the NHS. Caliman73 Jul 2019 #20

There are countries with universal healthcare that I think have better systems than the NHS. pnwmom Jul 2019 #21

No argument about other possibilities. Caliman73 Jul 2019 #25

We are on the same page there pnwmom. I would not trade the way we have Medicare for the NHS. still_one Jul 2019 #30

Didn't read matt819 Jul 2019 #11

Imagine how much worse it could get without mutiple options? AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #14

What multiple options? Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #31

The ACA is there....Medicare is there...Medicaid is there..employer provided is there AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #32

Nope Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #34