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In reply to the discussion: The Case of Al Franken by Jane Mayer [View all]hlthe2b
(112,413 posts)2. This article is truly wrenching. Those who defended the rail-roading of Franken REALLY
need to read and rethink. There was NOTHING honorable nor helpful to "ME-TOO" that came from this episode and debacle. NOTHING.
I could say more, but my post would be deleted so I will leave it there. Just know my thoughts are more pointed and directed.
I will instead include this segment from the article from DEM Senators who make clear their REGRET over their actions toward Franken:
A remarkable number of Frankens Senate colleagues have regrets about their own roles in his fall. Seven current and former U.S. senators who demanded Frankens resignation in 2017 told me that theyd been wrong to do so. Such admissions are unusual in an institution whose members rarely concede mistakes. Patrick Leahy, the veteran Democrat from Vermont, said that his decision to seek Frankens resignation without first getting all the facts was one of the biggest mistakes Ive made in forty-five years in the Senate. Heidi Heitkamp, the former senator from North Dakota, told me, If theres one decision Ive made that I would take back, its the decision to call for his resignation. It was made in the heat of the moment, without concern for exactly what this was. Tammy Duckworth, the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, told me that the Senate Ethics Committee should have been allowed to move forward. She said it was important to acknowledge the trauma that Frankens accusers had gone through, but added, We needed more facts. That due process didnt happen is not good for our democracy. Angus King, the Independent senator from Maine, said that hed regretted it ever since he joined the call for Frankens resignation. Theres no excuse for sexual assault, he said. But Al deserved more of a process. I dont denigrate the allegations, but this was the political equivalent of capital punishment. Senator Jeff Merkley, of Oregon, told me, This was a rush to judgment that didnt allow any of us to fully explore what this was about. I took the judgment of my peers rather than independently examining the circumstances. In my heart, Ive not felt right about it. Bill Nelson, the former Florida senator, said, I realized almost right away Id made a mistake. I felt terrible. I should have stood up for due process to render what its supposed tothe truth. Tom Udall, the senior Democratic senator from New Mexico, said, I made a mistake. I started having second thoughts shortly after he stepped down. He had the right to be heard by an independent investigative body. Ive heard from people around my state, and around the country, saying that they think he got railroaded. It doesnt seem fair. Im a lawyer. I really believe in due process.
Former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, who watched the drama unfold from retirement, told me, Its terrible what happened to him. It was unfair. It took the legs out from under him. He was a very fine senator. Many voters have also protested Frankens decision. A Change.org petition urging Franken to retract his resignation received more than seventy-five thousand signatures. It declared, Theres a difference between abuse and a mistake.
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we don't do it to ourselves. we let limbaugh and sons do it to good people all day long
certainot
Jul 2019
#85
thanks. any dem that asks mueller if he saw evidence russians were using talk radio or
certainot
Jul 2019
#139
The entire thing was a Roger Stone ratfuck hit job. I hope Stone gets convicted and rots in prison.
Texin
Jul 2019
#136
This article is truly wrenching. Those who defended the rail-roading of Franken REALLY
hlthe2b
Jul 2019
#2
Well Bill, Tammy, Heidi, Angus, Jeff, Tom, Harry and Patrick, that's nice . . ..
hatrack
Jul 2019
#5
Laughably incorrect. Gillibrand is a junior senator. Schumer was the minority leader.
yardwork
Jul 2019
#39
Don't be condescending. We all know who is Senate minority leader, yet Gillibrand LED the effort.
hlthe2b
Jul 2019
#40
I didn't mean to be condescending. It's just that Schumer needs to be held accountable.
yardwork
Jul 2019
#54
Yep!! And,Republicans STILL laughing their azzzz off on how EASY this was to pull off
Bengus81
Jul 2019
#272
I agree. "Stampeded" is the perfect word to describe what was taking place: herd mentality.
Demit
Jul 2019
#106
opportunist KG lost me too when she used this opp to paint herself as a champion for women.
onetexan
Jul 2019
#8
Ironically, she could have gained even more popularity if she had called for the Ethics investigatio
RVN VET71
Jul 2019
#150
i hate how the author described him as "disgraced" - he was railroaded, but not disgraced.
onetexan
Jul 2019
#6
exactly Cha. A good man and a great Dem leader was done in by another politician for expediency.
onetexan
Jul 2019
#135
For me its unforgivable. And I am glad I will miss the oportunity to vote ...
marble falls
Jul 2019
#59
After writing several still-very-angry paragraphs I decided to repeat your post...
Guilded Lilly
Jul 2019
#77
Thank you for posting that. That last paragraph should immediately end Gillibrand's campaign
drbtg1
Jul 2019
#144
Yes...he did, and it's why I won't vote for the gaggle that fell for Stone's sucker bet. nt
Baltimike
Jul 2019
#78
I hope they learned, too, but I doubt it. It looked like a replay of "Julius Caesar."
DFW
Jul 2019
#69
If I were him, I wouldn't want to be back with the people who threw me under the bus.
catrose
Jul 2019
#242
He should start a nationally syndicated Talk Show that specifically talks about trends
Blue_true
Jul 2019
#270
Who cares what repubs think or do! Dont we know by now that in the absence of
Kashkakat v.2.0
Jul 2019
#134
ONE QUESTION...Where is the Me Too movement on the RAPIST in the oval????????????
Zoonart
Jul 2019
#60
Franken had far more serious allegations against him than Tweeden the right-wing hack
Tarc
Jul 2019
#67
Why is a woman who complained that a man's arm around her waist made her uncomfortable because
Demit
Jul 2019
#110
Yes, as I recall she was the only non-Republican who wasn't "anonymous" who accused him,
deurbano
Jul 2019
#138
And yet you, rightly, supported the accusations, pre-investigation, against Kavanaugh, right?
Tarc
Jul 2019
#125
and I am sorry that you don't support a person is innocent until proven guilty
Baltimike
Jul 2019
#286
The one accuser that has HER arm around Franken for a picture--that allegation?
Bengus81
Jul 2019
#250
Think how valuable an active, office-holding Al Franken would be to us, right now.
Paladin
Jul 2019
#79
I pray this extensive, well-written article shepherds his re-entry into office.
Dennis Donovan
Jul 2019
#80
CAN HE NOT run and win again? What am I missing - I mean if Anthony effing Weiner can
Kashkakat v.2.0
Jul 2019
#82
Right. There are two Senators for every state and MN's are now filled by Dems Klobuchar and
hlthe2b
Jul 2019
#132
My fantasy is that Franken returns to the Senate when Klobuchar is appointed AG
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jul 2019
#255
After he resigned: "Gillibrand and other Senate colleagues flocked to hug him..."
catrose
Jul 2019
#105
What happened was that Franken made some of his other colleagues look bad by doing such a good job
PoliticAverse
Jul 2019
#179
She said that any time she saw Franken afterward her hands "clenched into fists."
Demit
Jul 2019
#159
I'm reading the article and it sounds like Franken was railroaded more than I previously
Vinca
Jul 2019
#176
Gillibrand Can Attribute Much of Her Primary Failure To Her Treatment of Al Franken.
Indykatie
Jul 2019
#177
I called her office and warned them that grassroots Democratic activists will never ever forgive her
Princetonian
Jul 2019
#188
"I'm going to die alone in the jungle" Amazing how far back in evolutionary terms mob violence goes
Hekate
Jul 2019
#194
I'm glad she wrote this article, but I hate how she characterizes him in the opening.
femmedem
Jul 2019
#223
Just finished. Now I'm more pissed than the day he was forced out of the senate.
IADEMO2004
Jul 2019
#277
I am so ashamed of the Dems. We are entering a new puritanism on our side of the aisle...
Hekate
Jul 2019
#289
I've heard a lot about Franken since I live in WI just across the Mississippi from MN.
elocs
Jul 2019
#301