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In reply to the discussion: "In this instance, Pelosi's normally acute political judgment is failing her.." [View all]cynara88
(9 posts)I'd like to apologize in advance about the lengths of my statements. I have no self-control. Feel free to skim.
Sure, I mentioned the Dems that I know (meaning I don't ascribe my sentiments to all Dems, just those with whom I've discussed the issues). Are you telling me that I have to toe the party line with no dissent? I thought we could voice our differences. Hmmm... I'll have to look that up later.
Make no mistake--kids learn what is modeled for them. Our children should be able to see good role modeling in our gov., including standing up for one's values. Granted, there aren't that many great examples, and none in the other party, but our representatives, imho, should at least abide by the rules. When they don't, our kids (and future candidates) should be shown that there are consequences.
When I used the pronoun 'they' I was referring to our elected Dems who do have much more power than the average citizen.
I did not say that the Dems have done nothing about anything for years. I meant that the problems at the border have been known for (and I could be wrong) about 2 years. Known to the public, that is.
Don't be too offended, but there are one or two Dems out here who see the congressional Dems as usually correct (duh) but often unwilling to take the necessary actions to fix or at least challenge what's wrong. e.g. allowing wars to be waged/continued without Congressional approval; waterboarding went unpunished--that = 2 violations of the Geneva Conventions; more recently, nothing was done when officials in this admin. lied to Congress; House Dems passed unqualified and ridiculously inappropriate people through committee, on to the Senate for approval to hold hugely important jobs; and what about security clearances? I see no evidence of substantial efforts to address the miasma of criminals in the trump admin. Those are the kind of things that give the other party those Cheshire-Cat grins, and encourages them to do what they please. Eureka! We have struck IMPUNITY! (I was tempted to also state that without consequences, the other party will go (sry) "To IMPUNITY AND BEYOND!". I decided it might be too much.
I have a minor in Journalism and I pride myself on getting my news from a variety of sources. Granted, no Faux 'news' network--I do prefer MSNBC and CNN, but I'm careful to examine the source of 'facts' presented before I accept them.
You're right that many Dems are trying, and I may be rabid on the subject, but the border abuse is a huge and time-sensitive outrage, and after so long, there's no excuse for that situation to be allowed to continue. Even if there were no laws to address these conditions, by now, emergency legislation could have been passed, courts petitioned, etc... And BTW, if the other party wants to allow the abuses to continue, they should earn it by being forced to explain themselves loudly and repeatedly over the voices of our Dems. Make them know that the important battles will be waged out loud, in public, in front of God and everyone for the rest of eternity if necessary. (If you chant that last sentiment, and add a reference to land, sea and air, it sounds way cooler).
Instead, when our Dems don't do anything but complain, they allow the bad guys to remain quiet, manufacture lies (remember 2018 when republican candidates all claimed undying support for affordable healthcare for all?).
?? In fact, I thought I once heard Iowa's own snarling darling, chuckles d'grassley refer to ' 'Death Panels' for Grandma' as part of 'Obamacare'.
and make insincere statements of concern for public consumption, while they continue their support this inhumane treatment, all those other crimes and the 'man' in charge.
I was a teacher, which made me a mandatory reporter of child abuse. I know that (at least here, in the enchanted land of corn and swine), once a report is made and accepted, CPS is REQUIRED to investigate within 1-96 hours, depending upon its urgency, and then to act accordingly for the child's safety and well-being. Oh yeah, I forgot--the inmates at the border aren't allowed to complain, and no one's allowed in to see the real conditions without an appointment. Color me embarrassed.
Those 'detention facilities' are violating all sorts of other rules too--fire codes, health and nutrition guidelines, etc. C'mon! Even daycares can only have a few children at a time per authorized adult and they have to adhere to strict space and other requirements. If these were POWs, the Geneva Conventions would mandate better treatment. You know, we don't even allow farm animals to be treated as badly as those poor immigrants, and no one will ever convince me that those traumatized children at the border should wait while we hem and haw about whether or not to start impeachment proceedings. Even if not on that issue, hey--we have approximately 4,934 other crimes to choose from, but please don't quote me on that number.
Our constitution and Bill of Rights claim that all men (meaning mankind) are created equal and have various rights endowed by their creator. It doesn't say white people or rich people, or even republicans; it doesn't draw the line at people who have no problems, nor does it specify a nationality or exclude people who come from shxt-hole countries. Those documents are the heart and soul of this country, and should be respected.