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89. Ratcliffe again is trying to destroy Mueller's reputation

Wed Jul 24, 2019, 09:17 AM

Jul 2019

by implying that he went outside of his powers as special prosecutor.

Republicans are completely IGNORING the very serious fact that Trump and his people ENABLED and ENCOURAGED Russian interference into our elections.

He ended by making a statement to the effect that the "Democrats and socialists" on the other side of the aisle are trying to deceive the American people.

I think this is a losing strategy.

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*************Official Thread Mueller Hearings************ [View all] bdamomma Jul 2019 OP

He is and realizes he's hamstrung. Not a strong speaker. sinkingfeeling Jul 2019 #1

Nadler is off to a good start. avebury Jul 2019 #2

Excellent questions. Peregrine Took Jul 2019 #6

Lofgren is doing fine,too! True Blue American Jul 2019 #36

Is he having trouble talking?! donkeypoofed Jul 2019 #3

Pretty sure that's just his manner blogslut Jul 2019 #7

Im sure he is "thinking before every single word". honest.abe Jul 2019 #11

I think we're seeing his reticence to testify ok_cpu Jul 2019 #65

Took a long time for an "official" thread to get going here. BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #4

Nadler's questions are so gooooood blogslut Jul 2019 #5

Quick and pointed. TruckFump Jul 2019 #8

Nadler knocked it out of the park. llmart Jul 2019 #9

***NOTE*** Republicans will try to "sleep" the jury now !!! uponit7771 Jul 2019 #10

Collins says he will talk slow, but then he talks like a motor mouth Beringia Jul 2019 #12

is he really a southerner? rampartc Jul 2019 #81

Collins is showing himself to be an absolute d__khead. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #13

I hope to hell he is not a lawyer. TruckFump Jul 2019 #17

He is and fancies himself to be some brilliant cross-examiner. He'd just a dick. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #22

Amazing who and what passes for an intellectual on the right. stopbush Jul 2019 #32

There is a huge range in quality of law schools. Some spooky3 Jul 2019 #217

Holy shit. TruckFump Jul 2019 #38

Going on about how great True Blue American Jul 2019 #51

Boom !!! Collusion is not conspiracy !!! uponit7771 Jul 2019 #14

Please explain the significance of that. honest.abe Jul 2019 #16

Republicans are trying to conflate the two so no conspiracy is no collusion when Mueller FIRST ... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #23

Ah got it. Thanks. honest.abe Jul 2019 #26

yes, BUT in his own report, Mueller said they were synonymous Celerity Jul 2019 #205

shit ... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #211

that was the worst exchange for us so far, Ratcliffe (after calling us Socialists, the asshole) made Celerity Jul 2019 #218

Right, but Mueller did and that's a sound bite but it's not a grounded one which sucks ... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #220

I have to be honest (and this could change on a dime, obviously) this is not going well at all Celerity Jul 2019 #221

Dems are doing a good job at stringing together OoJ, they're no doubt staying away from .... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #224

Bass was very good (she was asking questions as I typed that) Celerity Jul 2019 #225

Yes she was, It looks like dems are focused on OoJ and are making good hits while the uponit7771 Jul 2019 #227

As I understand it angrychair Jul 2019 #230

How does the fact of over 200 contacts between Trump's people and Russians stand with the ancianita Jul 2019 #244

Dipchit Collins got him to change what he first said on that. Hoyt Jul 2019 #52

Yep, heard that ... dammit ... come on dems, straighten that out. uponit7771 Jul 2019 #54

Collins is a jerk. bdamomma Jul 2019 #15

No kidding... and slow the fuck down, asshole. demmiblue Jul 2019 #19

Mueller should ask them to speak slower now... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #25

i mute them barbtries Jul 2019 #234

At least we got this: demmiblue Jul 2019 #237

yeah hehe barbtries Jul 2019 #238

I have a much stronger descriptor for him. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #20

I get the feeling all rethugs will be. dewsgirl Jul 2019 #24

+1, Mueller cut a lot of their BS out though ... we'll see. The collusion conspiracy answer is ... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #34

Collins Is Still Talking Fast And I Think On Purpose.... global1 Jul 2019 #18

Yup, he was trying to trick Mueller into a wrong answer by talking so fast to get to him to mtnsnake Jul 2019 #42

Collins is chewing up a lot of his time because avebury Jul 2019 #21

It's a questioning gish gallop form, Mueller should should ask him to talk slow and loud. uponit7771 Jul 2019 #28

Mueller should have asked him to slow down so that the everyone (the public included) avebury Jul 2019 #44

Thugs are going to all be belligerent and Zoonart Jul 2019 #30

He totally skipped any question about obstruction of justice! Roland99 Jul 2019 #45

Who is the Woman from Cali? I didn't catch the name on the radio irisblue Jul 2019 #27

lofgren uponit7771 Jul 2019 #29

Rep. Lofgren demmiblue Jul 2019 #31

She's good irisblue Jul 2019 #33

She did an EXCELLENT job. PA Democrat Jul 2019 #37

Agree. TruckFump Jul 2019 #40

Perfect True Blue American Jul 2019 #92

Why didn't she ask, "with 182 trump campaign Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #213

Lol... I feel my blood pressure going down listening to her. demmiblue Jul 2019 #41

As a note about Zoe Lofgren - she was a staffer on the Judiciary Committee during Watergate BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #39

cool note NewJeffCT Jul 2019 #102

"Trimp". Lol Roland99 Jul 2019 #35

!! BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #46

Collins got him to equate collusion with conspiracy - they'll run with that. polichick Jul 2019 #43

Mueller said no at first, I pray democrats follow up with the conflation uponit7771 Jul 2019 #47

Yes, and it sucks. Habibi Jul 2019 #48

IMO, one of the Dems will fix that. TruckFump Jul 2019 #49

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2019 #53

Just a clue bdamomma Jul 2019 #50

They'll question gish gallop, the one way to fix that is to ask them to talk slow and loud ... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #58

Yup, hate the questioning techniques of the Repubs....... a kennedy Jul 2019 #55

He has hearing issues - may God and the universe bless him today. polichick Jul 2019 #56

Amen Shanti Mama Jul 2019 #61

Yep, I thought so, too. TruckFump Jul 2019 #64

It's not that its the KGOP are question gish galloping by talking really fast ... he can mitigate .. uponit7771 Jul 2019 #75

I thought so. bdamomma Jul 2019 #107

I don't know, but the way these people mumble and rush doesn't help. polichick Jul 2019 #111

Radcliff of Tx is drawing Rw points in blood. irisblue Jul 2019 #57

what the hell is he yapping about. volume 2 is not illegal trueblue2007 Jul 2019 #60

Well put. So unreasonable and disrespectful lostnfound Jul 2019 #73

Whose the Repuke asshole bloviating now? TruckFump Jul 2019 #59

I don't think Ratcliffe knows the meaning of words. Goodheart Jul 2019 #63

What an airhead. TruckFump Jul 2019 #68

Killing time and feeding talking points to the cult. polichick Jul 2019 #66

Guess they Repukes have nothing better. TruckFump Jul 2019 #78

The congressman is monologuing blogslut Jul 2019 #80

Probably trying to get it into the record. calimary Jul 2019 #233

Ratiffe is a huge piece of shit onecaliberal Jul 2019 #62

Did not allow Mueller to respond. True Blue American Jul 2019 #69

That's what they want. Grandstanding, it's all they've got. onecaliberal Jul 2019 #79

Grandstanding and misrepresentation of the report. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #85

What a winer this last puke was. pwb Jul 2019 #67

Wow, so now Mueller had no authority to determine Habibi Jul 2019 #70

"Does your report exonorate the president?" "No". Cetacea Jul 2019 #71

Democrats and Socialists... demmiblue Jul 2019 #72

Republicans bloviate, bully and badger. Democrats ask questions. CousinIT Jul 2019 #74

Mueller sounds drunk. He seems dull. I expected him to be sharper. rainin Jul 2019 #76

KGOP is questioning gish gallop which involves quick questions with with false premises. uponit7771 Jul 2019 #83

They always do that. Andrew McCabe handled it. rainin Jul 2019 #90

Hope he understands the battle he's in, and decides to fight. polichick Jul 2019 #87

I am thinking he has hearing problems. TruckFump Jul 2019 #88

It has to be difficult to be in that position and not hear clearly. I sympathize. rainin Jul 2019 #103

Yes, I agree. nt DesertRat Jul 2019 #169

Comprehension relies on more than ability to "hear" clearly. Backseat Driver Jul 2019 #215

He just cannot hear well. TruckFump Jul 2019 #222

He Sounds Like He Was Drugged.... global1 Jul 2019 #108

It's a terrible look. I'm watching the youtube comments. They are crucifying him. rainin Jul 2019 #152

Some former prosecutors are on Twitter mcar Jul 2019 #150

Do we know if that's why it was delayed from last week? rainin Jul 2019 #155

He agreed to a longer period of questioning mcar Jul 2019 #170

To hell with the DOJ guideline letter, Mueller needs to fight back avebury Jul 2019 #77

Yep - can't carry a rule book before a firing squad. polichick Jul 2019 #93

Ratfink needs to be corrected! FM123 Jul 2019 #82

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2019 #84

+1 demmiblue Jul 2019 #94

For those who cannot watch: Watch Robert Mueller's full opening statement to Congress. demmiblue Jul 2019 #86

Ratcliffe again is trying to destroy Mueller's reputation PA Democrat Jul 2019 #89

GOOD !!! Slow everyone down !!! Do ... NOT ... let them ask fast even dems !!! uponit7771 Jul 2019 #91

Yes, the Dems need to slow down their speech. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #95

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2019 #100

Jeeeeeeee-Bus TruckFump Jul 2019 #96

Sensenbrenner is such a condescending prick. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #101

***GOOD !!! SLOW THEM ALL DOWN !!! *** uponit7771 Jul 2019 #97

Here's that nimrod Senselessbrainer. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #98

Sensenbrenner is still alive? Who knew. dem4decades Jul 2019 #99

LOL! That was my reaction when he started his condescending line of questioning. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #105

.... BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #114

He is so obnoxious Sanity Claws Jul 2019 #115

We are fucked !!! SamKnause Jul 2019 #104

I must say I am beginning to wonder if the one week delay... Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #109

I expected to be disappointed, but I did not expect Mueller to be totally out of it. SamKnause Jul 2019 #121

Hearing impairment? Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #124

NO ... it's a tactic to mitigate the KGOP gish gallop through questioning.... just act like you don' uponit7771 Jul 2019 #112

Disagree, totally disagree. SamKnause Jul 2019 #128

If the task is to counter KGOP talking points you're right, I don't think he know any of them ... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #139

IMO, he's hearing impaired and when they take a break... TruckFump Jul 2019 #113

Don't be ridiculous. He's intentionally slowing down the blather The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #130

Good Lord! Did Mueller do any preparation for the avebury Jul 2019 #106

thank you! berksdem Jul 2019 #117

He's having trouble hearing. polichick Jul 2019 #122

He says bdamomma Jul 2019 #166

Republicans are trying to find loopholes in their interpretation of the Special Counsel statute to PA Democrat Jul 2019 #110

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2019 #118

yeah--the argument is apparently that part 1 clears him and part 2 is illegal fishwax Jul 2019 #120

So you weren't going to indict the President? avebury Jul 2019 #116

His should state that he was ordered to not indict the President. cbdo2007 Jul 2019 #127

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2019 #143

Sensenbrenner is trying to infer obstruction is not impeachable onecaliberal Jul 2019 #119

It's absurd on its face JackInGreen Jul 2019 #131

Yes they fished until they found something. onecaliberal Jul 2019 #134

Cohen should be good. demmiblue Jul 2019 #123

He is! 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #125

Short and to the point, with a little bit of flair. demmiblue Jul 2019 #129

I wish they were all like that! 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #132

I do too (Nadler was). demmiblue Jul 2019 #149

I was hoping they'd coordinate like that. 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #153

He was excellent malaise Jul 2019 #135

He is walking through all of the evidence of obstruction asking for only a yes or no PA Democrat Jul 2019 #140

That was good! demmiblue Jul 2019 #172

Excellent cross-exam! Ponietz Jul 2019 #141

Looks like dems plan is to out the report, not a bad tactic but I think the can still put together uponit7771 Jul 2019 #126

Cohen is reminding him to fight. polichick Jul 2019 #133

The Republicans are steaming rolling Mueller, he was supposed to be like granite. dem4decades Jul 2019 #136

He's not being steamrolled; he's just stuck sitting there while they make speeches. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #168

Not able to watch live, but do you think at some point there will be a John Dean moment PRETZEL Jul 2019 #174

It's still early. He could get exasperated enough. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #191

Thanks, PRETZEL Jul 2019 #197

Gohmert is shouting..screaming at Mueller in an unprofessional antagonistic way. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #199

Well, that's Gohmert, doing exactly what Gohmert does. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #204

I swear JackInGreen Jul 2019 #137

The only way to watch this is to mute the mnhtnbb Jul 2019 #138

Time your bathroom breaks. dem4decades Jul 2019 #144

LOL! I was going to do that, but some of them have turned out to be as amusing Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #146

The dude wishes he had Trump's comb over. dem4decades Jul 2019 #148

Chabot is asserting this is retaliation for the Clinton impeachment? Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #142

"It's outside my purview." LOL! 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #145

LOVE THAT! dhol82 Jul 2019 #154

I want that on a coffee mug! 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #158

Would buy one. dhol82 Jul 2019 #162

Chabot saying fusion GPS Is not in the report like that matters for something. onecaliberal Jul 2019 #147

If the Dems are going to carry the day, someone on their side needs to clear the smoke away from faymer7 Jul 2019 #151

Needs to be stated slowly and clearly! Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #156

Hank Johnson is doing a good job. dem4decades Jul 2019 #161

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2019 #165

+1, there needs to be a clean up crew on answers uponit7771 Jul 2019 #159

Remember this is just the first round BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #179

My congressman is up. Hank Johnson. ecstatic Jul 2019 #157

He is. dem4decades Jul 2019 #164

He's doing good :) fishwax Jul 2019 #171

People are going too fast for him. It's losing effectiveness Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #160

+1, Mueller needs to tell them to talk slow and loud. Keeps the KGOP from question gish gallop... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #163

Why can't nadler say, Do you want to comment? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #231

Don't know, but it looks like Mueller has got a cadence and is holding both sides to it. That's good uponit7771 Jul 2019 #232

Calm down. Mueller is a bit nervous, when dems are up he's doing fine. onecaliberal Jul 2019 #167

+1, he should keep slowing them down with request for clarification uponit7771 Jul 2019 #176

Chabot's aides are incels Ponietz Jul 2019 #173

Nut job Louie Goehmert is up. PA Democrat Jul 2019 #175

... mcar Jul 2019 #177

One person should say, "you've been cut off, anything you Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #178

Shithead is bloviating now. TruckFump Jul 2019 #180

Starting bdamomma Jul 2019 #181

I guess this is why Mueller did not want to testify? Trump must be loving this.nt helpisontheway Jul 2019 #182

Gohmert the loon. How do we lose to these idiots. dem4decades Jul 2019 #183

Gomert just as idiotic as he was with Hillary. Jack A**! nt napi21 Jul 2019 #209

Because there is evidently a majority of loons allowed to vote in his district. calimary Jul 2019 #236

in the contest for who can be the biggest jerk today, gohmert gonna come on strong fishwax Jul 2019 #184

I saw a very brief flash of anger out of Mueller Lars39 Jul 2019 #188

yeah, I think he's definitely bristling here. fishwax Jul 2019 #196

Damn, this KGOP idiot is stupid. uponit7771 Jul 2019 #185

Gohmert is an ass. That is all. demmiblue Jul 2019 #186

Mute is our friend. Goober is moving his mouth. pwb Jul 2019 #187

Each cult member shows how twisted and unpatriotic they are. polichick Jul 2019 #189

The ASSHOLES are treating Mueller like a hostile witness! MoonRiver Jul 2019 #190

And of course they bring Page and Strzok. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #194

Page & Strzok equals "dozens of staff members who HAYTED the Prezza-deeint." klook Jul 2019 #206

They are evil ratfuckers, who don't give a damn about this country! MoonRiver Jul 2019 #212

Peter Strouk hated Trump. Mueller: Okay. dem4decades Jul 2019 #192

That was horrific. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #195

Mueller is not hip to all the KGOP stupid ass'd talking points. He doesn't know their string of ... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #202

JHC are we never gonna let the man talk??? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #193

Gomer Gohmert questioning Mueller's credibility Ponietz Jul 2019 #198

That behavior was just disgusting!!!! Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #200

Screaming like a madman! DesertRat Jul 2019 #203

Gohmert is a disgusting lying bastard. gademocrat7 Jul 2019 #201

We can call him Gohmert Pyle now donkeypoofed Jul 2019 #207

BAMB !!! Lets go, something impeachment starts NOW !! uponit7771 Jul 2019 #208

Loonie Goobmert School of Law bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #210

Thread 2 started bdamomma Jul 2019 #214

Is Roby/Alabama Roseanne's sister? Ponietz Jul 2019 #216

Thread 2 DesertRat Jul 2019 #219

This message was self-deleted by its author DesertRat Jul 2019 #229

Why doesn't he have someone help him turn pages for citations? He looks distracted FailureToCommunicate Jul 2019 #223

I'm concerned about that. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2019 #239

I hope the next Dem that goes after that jerk jordan FM123 Jul 2019 #226

********** 5 minute break now! ******* BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #228

How can you not proceed with impeachment after this hearing?!? Joe941 Jul 2019 #235

I'm following a bit between work. seems to be going well. Kurt V. Jul 2019 #240

Democrats need to get zentrum Jul 2019 #241

Ted Lieu:The reason again that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of the OLC opinion iluvtennis Jul 2019 #242

Val Demings:Lies by Trump campaign officials and administration officials impeded your investigation iluvtennis Jul 2019 #243