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Eyeball_Kid

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56. All shiny objects, all the time. Just like TV commercials.

Thu Jul 25, 2019, 09:57 AM

Jul 2019

Information is dying. Propaganda is thriving. Our entire population no longer depends on gathering facts to determine action. If it feels right, if the marketing sells a “product”, then it becomes quasi-fact, and gets transformed into “truth.”

What this means for us is that real truth is held in the hands of elite propagandists, who then shape the facts into self serving nuggets to sell to their “customers,” or “voters.” This nearly seems as if we are regressing into a pre- Information Age in which facts are only known among the powerful Elites who feed the populations whatever suits THEIR interests. This is, at best, the destruction of Democracy in real time. As vast an information database as the internet is, it’s no match for propaganda.

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I find it absolutely disgusting that this board, which I understood prided itself on its [View all] Atticus Jul 2019 OP

I agree with you totally. redstatebluegirl Jul 2019 #1

So do I! True Blue American Jul 2019 #8

Mueller forcefully said that election interference was happening as he sat there Politicub Jul 2019 #18

I blame the media for the hype and narrative they created. BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #89

Absolutely.. Ungrateful! Cha Jul 2019 #106

This! mcar Jul 2019 #2

Why are you shocked..... USALiberal Jul 2019 #3

Point to someone who's post "made fun" of Mueller brooklynite Jul 2019 #11

Where did I say Mueller? Nt USALiberal Jul 2019 #22

"Why are you shocked...?" (your title) brooklynite Jul 2019 #24

Support that allegation with objective evidence, please. LanternWaste Jul 2019 #25

Wow, I'll need some extra utensils to attempt to address this word salad of a post. MadDAsHell Jul 2019 #90

"How it's delivered is as relevant to the audience as what the information is." BunnyMcGee Jul 2019 #95

How the messag is delivered is not as important as the content. This is false. mahina Jul 2019 #84

Well, as long as the targets are the "right people" oldsoftie Jul 2019 #51

Somewhere, Limbaugh and Hannity are chuckling? Laughing their fat asses off, more like it. marble falls Jul 2019 #4

Too much TV. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #5

Yep. DU is no different than the rest of the internet GusBob Jul 2019 #42

Correct... BlueJac Jul 2019 #66

Without TV and social media, no Trump. Sad to see performance standards influencing our emmaverybo Jul 2019 #78

Much of it is reacting to how MSM is depicting it. I believe Mueller was walking an incredibly hlthe2b Jul 2019 #6

Absolutely agree about the tightrope! pazzyanne Jul 2019 #19

part of tightrope: ongoing investigations Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #70

Yup... it is easy for some to ignore those constraints, but those are absolutely real. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #71

I caught less than an hour and was impressed by Mueller Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #72

THIS. emmaverybo Jul 2019 #79

I think it may be that people were hoping for both? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #7

The expectations of some were completely unrealistic. TwilightZone Jul 2019 #9

There are many on DU who trash Dems and allies the minute their unrealistic expectations ehrnst Jul 2019 #12

THIS BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #28

True. And yes, it's sad mcar Jul 2019 #49

And no matter how often the facts are explained, they continue to repeat the same false assumptions StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #92

I am appalled at the ageist comments here. milestogo Jul 2019 #10

+1 hlthe2b Jul 2019 #13

+1 pazzyanne Jul 2019 #21

+1 llmart Jul 2019 #35

+ another 1 nolabear Jul 2019 #48

+1 RelativelyJones Jul 2019 #86

Yes. Sadly, when you get as old as I am you get used to it. Lucid Dreamer Jul 2019 #105

it is falling into the tRump narrative - that it is all about ratings and performance UpInArms Jul 2019 #14

Nice mix of fact and opinion. Seriously. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jul 2019 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author UpInArms Jul 2019 #85

+1. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #15

All of the sudden the internet and social networks were filled with posts Politicub Jul 2019 #16

Spot on padah513 Jul 2019 #31

What I thought was outrageous was the R's . Delmette2.0 Jul 2019 #46

+1,000 malaise Jul 2019 #17

Thank-you happy feet Jul 2019 #20

Indeed dalton99a Jul 2019 #23

Now that's a headline! MaryMagdaline Jul 2019 #26

Brilliantly shows it's all about the spin. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #80

Nice. H2O Man Jul 2019 #97

Let's Not Forget for a Moment all of the Foreign Operatives and Trolls dlk Jul 2019 #27

I posted yesterday afternoon that he was "not a morning person." rzemanfl Jul 2019 #29

Mueller did something tRump is afraid to do, Scarsdale Jul 2019 #30

These days a measured response is considered MuseRider Jul 2019 #32

mueller dawn5651 Jul 2019 #33

I feel the same way and agree with you 100% secondwind Jul 2019 #34

I am always surprised that people think that everyone on this board Merlot Jul 2019 #36

Bingo. dalton99a Jul 2019 #39

+1, there are many people who come for informed conversation uponit7771 Jul 2019 #43

The format was the problem, watoos Jul 2019 #37

For many of them, there is a term. denbot Jul 2019 #38

And if they are not trolls? GusBob Jul 2019 #44

it's the television effect stillcool Jul 2019 #40

Too many people expected Perry Mason. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2019 #41

Finally. murielm99 Jul 2019 #45

I can't say I'm surprised when it seems procon Jul 2019 #47

Someone said it best GusBob Jul 2019 #60

Where's the rest? moonseller66 Jul 2019 #50

IN FAIRNESS.... garybeck Jul 2019 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Jul 2019 #77

Well, for the first presidential debate Kennedy knew optics AJT Jul 2019 #53

As they say, we'd not have had Lincoln in the age of television. But we at DU do not have to emmaverybo Jul 2019 #81

There are probably a lot of Repuke trolls that have somehow sneaked in the door unnoticed INdemo Jul 2019 #54

Anyone who stays at home next year because Dems didn't impeach isn't a "Democratic faithful" StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #57

That's true but you know I know Democrat's that INdemo Jul 2019 #74

Anyone who at this point has faith in a fair election hasn't been paying attention Cetacea Jul 2019 #98

One of the ways they "rig" the election is by convincing us they rigged the election so we stay home StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #100

We outnumbered GOP by nine million votes in the midterms, despite Russia Cetacea Jul 2019 #101

We outnumbered them, but if we don't vote, it doesn't matter StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #102

Noone should dismiss the very real threat that Russia poses Cetacea Jul 2019 #103

Excellent points Cetacea Jul 2019 #104

Anyone who stays home is an ass. Tipperary Jul 2019 #63

Thanks elleng Jul 2019 #55

All shiny objects, all the time. Just like TV commercials. Eyeball_Kid Jul 2019 #56

Just like our choice of food is becoming---just because it tastes good and your mouth Doitnow Jul 2019 #73

It is a little window into one of the many things wrong with our society. Enoki33 Jul 2019 #58

I find the M$M's ageism more disgusting Dirty Socialist Jul 2019 #61

Mueller's Report let trump off the hook, but he was great in hearing clarifying it. Democrats were Hoyt Jul 2019 #62

And despite what Mueller said, people are placing naive faith in the fairness of a 2020 election. Cetacea Jul 2019 #99

It's called being real. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #64

my only post was praise, he conducted himself better than most of us could under those circumstances yaesu Jul 2019 #65

Totally agree with you h2ebits Jul 2019 #67

Thank you. Well said. emulatorloo Jul 2019 #68

We have become a nation/world caring MORE about the messengers delivery...than SayItLoud Jul 2019 #69

yup. Joe941 Jul 2019 #75

Kicking for visibility Niagara Jul 2019 #76

I agree. ElementaryPenguin Jul 2019 #82

Same but I assumed they were not DUers mahina Jul 2019 #83

I'm with you. Silver Gaia Jul 2019 #87

Once we get past the initial instant knee jerk negative reactions lunatica Jul 2019 #88

I'm not really disgusted with DU per se, but with the media in general. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #91

We have eyes and ears. My husband and I both though he looked weak and fumbling at times. THis is a Pisces Jul 2019 #93

People noting this are voters. warmfeet Jul 2019 #94

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2019 #96

The GOP and Fox and, of course, Trump and his crime family RVN VET71 Jul 2019 #107