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AtheistCrusader

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10. There have been a few, and they have helped, but some paid a terrible price for it.

Reply to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 04:39 PM

Jul 2019

In Tyler Texas, bystander with a gun halted the courthouse shooting, and saved a kid that was about to be shot execution-style, but because the shooter was wearing body armor and a flak jacket, the bystander's pistol didn't penetrate. They exchanged fire, good guy was killed, but the shooter was out of time, and had to flee because cops were starting to arrive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_courthouse_shooting

In the Tacoma Mall, bystander with a gun confronted the shooter, but didn't shoot him right away, and tried to talk him down. Other people got away, but because the bystander didn't shoot him immediately, the shooter ended up shooting the bystander. Ended up a paraplegic. The delay appeared to help though, no one else got shot after he confronted the shooter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Mall_shooting

There aren't a lot of examples, but there are some, though most go badly for the first responder, because going up against a rifle with a handgun is a shitty day, no matter how good of a shot you are.

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Mass shooting tips from law enforcement specifically for people that carry. [View all] TXPaganBanker Jul 2019 OP

Wayne LaPierre Turbineguy Jul 2019 #1

The core message. Straw Man Jul 2019 #2

I have that one idiot relative... TXPaganBanker Jul 2019 #3

so what about music festivals in Nevada lapfog_1 Jul 2019 #5

Well, that just deflated a whole buncha heroic fantasies Cirque du So-What Jul 2019 #4

As if there is ever a mythical "good guy with a gun" PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #6

There have been a few, and they have helped, but some paid a terrible price for it. AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #10

I thought everyone just broke out their cell phones and filmed? Throck Jul 2019 #7

tips for a miniscule population maxsolomon Jul 2019 #8

Pretty much, because no non-police people that legally carry would have been carrying inside the AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #11

Run Hide Fight underpants Jul 2019 #9

Yep. Even LE, with training miss, freeze, and make mistakes. Caliman73 Jul 2019 #12

People who carry "to be heroes" are cowards.. Squaredeal Jul 2019 #13

thanks for posting this. common sense . good guy with a gun, nonsense. AllaN01Bear Jul 2019 #14

Most carriers won't intervene. They carry to protect themselves. You don't carry, that's on you. TheBlackAdder Jul 2019 #15

This is a perfect example angrychair Jul 2019 #16

My argument against carrying concealed weapons is the lack of training Buckeyeblue Jul 2019 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jul 2019 #18

Those wannabe be heroes don't shoot back. JohnnyRingo Jul 2019 #19

Concealed carry is only for personal protection hack89 Jul 2019 #20