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customerserviceguy

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17. There's a 900-lb. gorilla in the room
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jul 2019

We have a medical/insurance system that breaks people up into tiers.

At the top tier, you have people with Cadillac insurance, with modest premiums deducted from paychecks, low deductibles and co-pays, and high caps on benefits being provided, often by companies that don't do a lot of squeezing on healthcare providers (relatively).

The next tier consists of people with lower-quality insurance, they have higher deductibles and co-pays, and not as much of their needs (psychiatric, for instance) are covered. That's where probably most people are.

The next tier after that is the folks on Medicare or Medicaid, or some other such governmental system. They have to be able to find healthcare providers that will take the lower reimbursement payments offered, and those providers know they're not going to recover all of the co-pays, deductibles, etc., so they build that into the acceptance rate of those patients.

At the bottom are people with zero insurance, who get charged the full rip-off price for anything, because they're not "members" of some sacred group, and they often face the choice of doing without necessities to pay a bill, or filing for bankruptcy. They pretty much get emergency care only, and don't often bother to seek timely treatment from the healthcare industry.

When unions negotiate top-quality benefits for their members and the members' families, the employers see the value of putting these workers into that top tier. The employees have less financial stress, and can get in sooner to better quality providers, and be back on the job sooner.

Medicare-for-All lumps all of us into one tier, and that's threatening to people in the top two tiers.

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Interesting that it is referred to as "private insurance" rather than "corporate insurance". jalan48 Jul 2019 #1
Agreed. Henceforth, I shall call it that. theaocp Jul 2019 #3
GREAT point. Nt lostnfound Jul 2019 #4
One thing I would add VMA131Marine Jul 2019 #2
I know people recently laid off by self-insured companies: tended to be older or sicker. lostnfound Jul 2019 #5
Another MAJOR thing that should be noted DENVERPOPS Jul 2019 #23
If the publi option becomes available wouldn't corporations just Merlot Jul 2019 #6
Firstly - I Believe It Is A Myth Perpetrated By The Private/Corporate Insurance Industry That..... global1 Jul 2019 #7
That makes sense - why would people be upset to loose the insurance Merlot Jul 2019 #8
You Hit The Nail On The Head..... global1 Jul 2019 #10
anyone covered by private insurance has horror stories about huge bills delayed or denied treatment DBoon Jul 2019 #11
This! I've been saying this forever ProfessorPlum Jul 2019 #9
Let's not be dishonest. Workplace insurance is an EARNED BENEFIT, Hortensis Jul 2019 #12
and it is still health care for profit Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #13
I agree. Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2019 #14
Nobody is emotionally attached to their health insurance provider Poiuyt Jul 2019 #15
About to experience this I am afraid... Family is currently on ACA JCMach1 Jul 2019 #16
There's a 900-lb. gorilla in the room customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #17
I agree Medicare for All is not about taking away people's insurance. patphil Jul 2019 #18
Is it just me, or do we SUCK at messaging? slumcamper Jul 2019 #19
I'm sure many employers would save costs with Medicare for all IronLionZion Jul 2019 #20
the trouble I see with medicare for all... stewrat Jul 2019 #21
It's a bond we must break. I realized that a couple of decades ago. NT SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #22
That is an important distinction. yonder Jul 2019 #24
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